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    Bad deals - read first before commiting to buy!!!

    Bad Deals - Read first before commiting to buy!

    Please note that these rules are considered above and beyond the board rules. The board rules will be updated when this implementation becomes finalized.

    We are commited to servicing the Turbo Mopar community. Alot of the rules in the past were carried over from a previous board. We have felt the need to upgrade for a long time, and did not because there was never a good way to do it. After some review and discussion, we have come up with a method to track Bad Deals only. These Bad Deals are from the TM medium. They can be from eBay, e-mail, PM's from other Boards, and links from other Boards. This is to give us documenting proof as weight against the person for not holding up the bargin. Consequences are final.

    In order to have a person added to this, all proof must be submitted to the moderators or admins listed below in some form of PM or e-mail. The information will then be posted and the action against the person will be taken. The actions taken against a person will be as follows...
    • If the bad deal took place before TM was opened in late December 2005, then the person will have his access to 'Parts for Sale', 'Parts Wanted', and 'Unrestricted Swap Meet' removed permanently. He will still be allowed to view the Feedback area to review this thread. In addition, he will have a point against him... see below for implementation on points.
    • If the bad deal took place on this forum at anytime, then the person will have his access to all areas removed with the exception of the Feedback area to review this and related threads. In addition, he will have a point against him.
    • If the bad deal took place off of this forum while TM was opened, and the person is not a member, still provide information to keep a watch against him. If the person is a member, then his access to all areas will be removed with the exception of the Feedback area to review this and related threads. In addition, he will have a point against him.
    • If the person has four or more points against him for more then 4 weeks, then a permanent title will forever be tagged on the person - 'Banned Seller/Buyer'. This is an equivalent to the familiar ban, except that they can still access the Feedback area to review this and related threads.
    • If the person has one or more points against him for more then 6 months, then a permanent title forever be tagged on the person - 'Banned Seller/Buyer'. This is an equivalent to the familiar ban, except that they can still access the Feedback area to review this and related threads.
    • If the person removes any points in a timely fashion, from when there name is put on the list, by closing the deals and making what was wrong, right, and has not exceeded the last two rules, then he will be restored to the board, but will not be allowed to Buy/Sell items again.


    If extraneous circumstances existed and the user has achieved zero points against them, you will be able to contact an administrator or moderator, and the members of the board will be allowed to vote yes or no too allow access to the non swap meet sections.

    Those who are already banned due to bad sales, will not have their status changed. In some cases, we may find it nessecary to take more extreme measure against someone - true scamers, etc.


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    Re: Bad Deals - Read first before commiting to buy! (working session)

    1quick4 - Scott Havercamp
    Related Thread: http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3486
    Negative Rep Points 0
    His access to the site has been restored. Access to the For Sale area is restricted.



    Mike Sanders owner of Turbo Dynamx, Inc.
    Mr P-body - Turbo Dodge Forums
    ForcedFed4 - NEONS.ORG Forums
    mjsanders22@hotmail.com @ http://www.turbodynamx.net
    Negative Rep Points 1
    Not currently a member of TM, so no action has been taken against him.

    Quote Originally Posted by CUDA 1
    I strongly advise anyone from using Mike Sanders dba Turbodynamx. I included a link to a thread which is a little lengthy but shows what kind of business he is running. In short I prepaid for a set of pistons from him and after several times of being lied to I ended up repaying for them from the company he had placed his order to and have yet to get a refund from Mike. I know he had threads on both neons.org and turbododge but have not seen any from him on here yet but hopefully you can keep him from taking advantage of anyone here.THANKS for hearing me out!! http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.ph...asc&highlight=
    Quote Originally Posted by CUDA 1
    Frank here is the thread on turbododge that was dealing with problems with Mike and he himself even posted in this thread stating how he had picked up his order at DRP (diamond racing products). http://www.turbododge.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=101049 It has almost been a full year since I paid him for my pistons and still have not recieved a refund from him. I have talked with him and at one point before I had my pistons he told me he was having financial problems so I offered to pay DRP for my order which had been done for quite a while and he could reimburse me when he came up with the money. He originally agreed to this but when I called DRP to pay at that time he failed to let them know that he was ok with this arangement so I got back ahold of him and he said that he and his accountent had come up with the money to pay for them which was great as far as I was concerned unfortunately I never got the pistons and after talking to DRP themselves I finally managed to get them to sell the pistons to me after they tried several times to get ahold of Mike. Here is another thread from another forum about him http://www.detroitneonowners.org/vie...asc&highlight= I hope this is enough information for you to help protect your users from turbodynamx.

    Chris Faulk - Private Seller
    Chris Faulk - Turbo Dodge Forums
    Chris Faulk - Turbo Mopar Forums
    Negative Rep Points 1
    Deal took place before TM started, so access to For Sale section is permenantly restricted. Access to the board has been removed as of Jan 5, 2007 because he did not settle up with Cindy.

    Refering thread - http://www.turbododge.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=103762
    Quote Originally Posted by glhs727
    I never recieved the parts promised..... <edited>
    Thanks,
    Cindy

    Eric Lilly - Private Seller
    BFnGA - Turbo Dodge Forums
    burnfast - Turbo Mopar Forums
    Negative Rep Points 1
    For Sale section is forever off limits, unless appealed and members vote on it. Currently access to the board is only to this area to correct and view this thread. Access to the board will be perminantly removed in 6months if deal is not corrected (Feb 1st).

    Refering thread - http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5340


    Jeffrey O'Brien - Private Seller
    Phreakish - Turbo Dodge Forums
    Phreakish - Turbo Mopar Forums
    crankit1ob3@gmail.com
    Negative Rep Points 1
    For Sale section is forever off limits, unless appealed and members vote on it. Currently access to the board is only to this area to correct and view this thread. Access to the board will be perminantly removed in 6months if deal is not corrected.

    Refering thread - http://www.turbododge.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=113501
    Quote Originally Posted by J&H Ryan
    In March I responded via PM to a thread http://www.turbododge.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=113501
    and bought it, sending payment on the 31st. I had him ship them to a friend in VA as it was a gift to a friend. He took so long the first time before I bugged him, she had already moved. Had him send it to the new address, and he said everything was good. Then he dropped off the map. He gave the usual excuses of it being the shipping's fault. Might have believed him...had she got it.

    Name: Jeffrey O'Brien
    used email: crankit1ob3@gmail.com
    out: $150

    Wierd part is...Juggy eventually got his ground fx - I did not get mine.

    -Ryan

    Roy - Private Seller
    psi2hi, 4.5daytona, 86shelby15psi, sprayu2, fastglh86 - Turbo Dodge Forums
    psi2hi, pegging20psi, 86shelby15psi, sprayu2, fastglh86 - Turbo Mopar Forums
    burmese434@yahoo.com, burmese600@yahoo.com, burmese434@netscape.net, turbododge@netscape.com, turbododge15psi@yahoo.com, fastglh86@aol.com
    Columbus Ohio
    Immediate Bans for all user names!
    All access is immediately removed. This man is a blatent scammer with multiple accounts across all boards.

    Original thread which started it all- http://www.turbododge.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=119233


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_Shepard
    Here is a link to psi2hi's profile
    http://www.turbododge.com/forums/member.php?u=12521

    here is the 4.5Daytona profile
    http://www.turbododge.com/forums/member.php?u=13006

    and 86shelby15psi
    http://www.turbododge.com/forums/member.php?u=7649

    Roy's current forsale add
    http://www.turbododge.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=121978

    Here is the origanal post made by 67shelbyGT500 were roy ripped him and the others off
    http://www.turbododge.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=119233

    And this is the link where I actually was able to get the parts and ship them myself.
    http://www.turbododge.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=120287
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_Shepard
    I was contacted buy a fellow TD member saying he read that Roy and I we're friends and was looking for help getting parts that he had bought off roy and and has yet to have recieved. at the same time 2 other members contacted me as well and very upset.

    Roy made it sound like he had just sent the parts out by giving invalid shipping numbers, Even changed his username and pretented roy had been arrested for theft, when in fact he was the one trying to cover up the truth, He had no intention on sending the parts out due to the fact he had no money for shipping

    After numerous PM attempts and a month later (2 months after the first payment was sent for the parts) I was finally able to talk roy into giving my the parts and send them out myself at my expense (which was repayed buy the origanal buyers)

    Brian Schulteis - Private Seller
    UNA - Turbo Dodge Forums
    UNA - Turbo Mopar Forums
    unaclocker@gmail.com
    Negative Rep Points 1
    This was a temporary ban until he cleared things up. When a mistake happened on TD, UNA went and started deleting threads that implicated him as a bad seller. Because of this act, he has been perminantly banned.


    Below is the summary Ed has sent me. In addition, significant proof has been provided to me thru paypal e-mails.

    Frank, well let me start from the beginning. I posted a message aug 3rd on TD.com asking for a preconverted harness for my omni, which can be viewed here http://www.turbododge.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=121026. Una responded I subsequently sent him $100 for said harness on aug 5th via paypal. Since between then and now, I have recieved nothing from Brian (una). I have PM'd him various times on TD.com and recieved a handful of responses, usually offering some excuse, such as "I got a new job, i'm busy" or, "its boxed up, i'll have my wife ship it monday." Everytime, until he started blowing me off, I offered nothing but understanding to his situation. On sept 18th, I filed a dispute against Brian through paypal which he never responded to and ended in my favor on oct 16th. I was unable to recieve funds from that due to Brian's account having nonsufficient funds. Thats about it, i'll forward the paypal emails i've recieved after this. Thanks.

    Ed

    Cody Yelsma - Private Seller
    cody88csxt - Turbo Mopar Forums
    cody88csxt@yahoo.com
    Negative Rep Points 1
    Currently per the rules he has been permanently banned from the for sale sections. There is a lot of evidence that he is indeed a crook and cannot be trusted, however he is still not in jail so until charges actually stick, he will not be banned from the site.


    Below is the summary Ed has sent me. In addition, significant proof has been provided to me thru paypal e-mails.

    http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-po...,1764135.story
    http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-ch...,2135491.story
    http://www.slcsr.com/showthread.php?...t=stolen+parts
    http://www.utahnissans.com/forums/sh...?t=6945&page=4

    Salt Lake County Prisoner Information Center
    DEFENDANT
    Booking Number Prisoner ID Name of Prisoner Sex Race Age Booked
    Date Time Cell Location
    Visiting Schedule
    905874 312480 YELSMA, CODY ALAN M W 21 02/26/2009 19:50:00 BKG


    CHARGES
    Seq Counts Degree Type Description Court Case# Judge Bail
    Pay Bail Disposition
    1 4 F2 CG REC/TRANSFER STOLEN MOTOR VEHICLE/TR/SEMI-TRAILER SL DIST NO BAIL
    2 3 F2 CG FRAUDULENT ALTERATION OF ID NUMBER SL DIST NO BAIL
    3 1 F3 CG REC STOLEN PROPERTY-DUTIES OF A PAWNBROKER SL DIST NO BAIL


    ARRESTING AGENCY
    (Contact arresting agency for vehicle impound)
    Case # Arresting Agency Arresting Officer
    20090547 UT TAX COMM - INV SECTION BROOKS, D
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    Updated today for Mike Sanders.... alot of screwed people.

    Updated today for Chris Faulk.

    Updated today for Eric Lilly.

    Updated for Jeffrey O'Brien

    Updated for Roy...

    psi2hi, 4.5daytona, 86shelby15psi, sprayu2 - Turbo Dodge Forums
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    Just added Roy's 4th attempt to scam us. His 'sprayu2' account has been banned also!


    Frank

    Just added Brian Schulteis, aka Una.

    Just updated about UNA's forever banned status.
    Just updated about Chris Faulk's forever banned status.
    Updated to include Roy's last username we had banned.

    Just banned Daytona Mikey's second screen name. While we dont have a writeup on him, he has been banned for scamming people. He lives in Ontario.
    Last edited by Frank; 03-16-2009 at 06:13 AM.
    Frank Katzenberger
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    91 Daytona Shelby - It is getting there

    87 Shelby CSX #418 - Near stock is a good thing!

    94 Bronco 302 XLT - Shorty Headers, 3" exhaust, cold air intake, & Soft top



    "... to get the best out of it, you have to go beyond the line. Where bravery becomes insanity. Shall I turn into this hairpin bend at a 100mph? Why not!"



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    Re: Bad Deals - Read first before commiting to buy!

    We just added cody88csxt
    Frank Katzenberger
    Squirrel Performance - Home of the best turbo calc!!!
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    91 Daytona Shelby - It is getting there

    87 Shelby CSX #418 - Near stock is a good thing!

    94 Bronco 302 XLT - Shorty Headers, 3" exhaust, cold air intake, & Soft top



    "... to get the best out of it, you have to go beyond the line. Where bravery becomes insanity. Shall I turn into this hairpin bend at a 100mph? Why not!"



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