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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Nice pics!

    How'd you run?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Reeves View Post
    Nice pics!

    How'd you run?
    Thanks!

    That was from this night,

    http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...postcount=1031

    havnt run it since... need to open trans

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Thanks!

    That was from this night,

    http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...postcount=1031

    havnt run it since... need to open trans
    Dang.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Pulled the trans apart (in car) today to try to find out why 3rd gear is flakey.

    Good news in that the gears looked OK... the dogs on 2 and 3 have definitely seen better days but not sure if they are beyond usabel yet tho, what was the spec again?

    Might be the prototype brass pads? Clcik Here for Brass Shift Fork Pad Discussion

    How important is the plastic pin in the mainshaft bearing, looks like its seen better days? LOL! What is its function other than guiding the shaft into the bearing during assemble?

    And I don't knwo A568 as well as A555, what is this thing is that fell down when I pulled the gears out the side?
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    That looks like a dowel pin, no? What's the first pic of?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    That looks like a dowel pin, no? What's the first pic of?
    I think that's the dowel in that goes in the shaft the reverse idler is on...I think it holds the idler from sliding on the shaft. I could be wrong, so double check me

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    I also think the dowel goes in the reverse gear shaft. Anti-rotation pin. Check that shaft and see if it's pin is missing.

    What the hell is pic 1 of?

    Also, inside of you main shaft bearing is a sleeve. Isn't that supposed to be pressed on your main shaft?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Reeves View Post
    Also, inside of you main shaft bearing is a sleeve. Isn't that supposed to be pressed on your main shaft?
    Ja know, I was thinking this same thing. The bearing looks good, but isn't that sleeve supposed to be press fit!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Yes, that race should be pressed on. I was going to say it probably started to walk off and wear throught the plastic. I found mine starting to do that before I left for SDAC so I pressed it back on with some loctite bearing retaining compound. That dowel goes into the 5th gear shift rod in the hole that is in the squared cut out forky part that the reverse rod rests in (I can see it in my head but have no idea how to explain it ). It is captured by the reverse rod.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    I'd def check that bearing and replace if need be. That is what sh*t the bed on my trans and you see the results of that:


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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    I concur with what everyone else is saying. It looks to me like you are lucky to have pulled the trans apart when you did JT.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Good news in that the gears looked OK... the dogs on 2 and 3 have definitely seen better days but not sure if they are beyond usabel yet tho, what was the spec again?

    Might be the prototype brass pads? Clcik Here for Brass Shift Fork Pad Discussion
    My guess is the problem is brass...but not the pads. I've gone through two sets of plastic pads on my A568. The bottom line fir me is that the sychro is done and it only takes one or two really bad missed shifts to destroy the pads.

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    How important is the plastic pin in the mainshaft bearing, looks like its seen better days? LOL! What is its function other than guiding the shaft into the bearing during assemble?
    I believe it serves some lubrication purpose. I'm not sure if it brings oil from the case into the main shaft or if it pulls oil from the main shaft into the bearing. The fact that it has been destroyed like that says to me that your main shaft is walking. It is centered by the front ball bearing on the main shaft, which is held in place by that big snap ring around the outside of it and squeezed between the two retainer plates.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MiniMopar View Post
    I believe it serves some lubrication purpose. I'm not sure if it brings oil from the case into the main shaft or if it pulls oil from the main shaft into the bearing. The fact that it has been destroyed like that says to me that your main shaft is walking. It is centered by the front ball bearing on the main shaft, which is held in place by that big snap ring around the outside of it and squeezed between the two retainer plates.
    ^What he said.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Thanks for the info everyone! yeah I didnt even look at that bearing yet but seperating sounds exactly like what happened.

    Where do folks get their trans bearings from these days?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    If your main shaft is walking, that could also explain your shifting problems since the shifter won't have enough throw.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Thanks for the info everyone! yeah I didnt even look at that bearing yet but seperating sounds exactly like what happened.

    Where do folks get their trans bearings from these days?
    Ours were made by this company and were very nice. The company we bought them from even let us know that the main shaft bearing is no longer available and wouldn't be included in the kit (555 bearing) and gave us a discount:

    www.transtar1.com

    Also, this is VERY useful for tracking down parts (thanks Fleck):

    http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/vb...&articleid=134

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MiniMopar View Post
    If your main shaft is walking, that could also explain your shifting problems since the shifter won't have enough throw.
    Bingo... I kinda thought that when I took the plastic piece carnage out...

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Reeves View Post
    Ours were made by this company and were very nice. The company we bought them from even let us know that the main shaft bearing is no longer available and wouldn't be included in the kit (555 bearing) and gave us a discount:

    www.transtar1.com

    Also, this is VERY useful for tracking down parts (thanks Fleck):

    http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/vb...&articleid=134
    Awesome, thanks!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Bingo... I kinda thought that when I took the plastic piece carnage out...
    Is that what the first pic is? Plastic puke!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    JT, could you measure the main shaft where the sleeve is supposed to press on please? I'm wondering if there is a combination of parts which could be used to allow for the older main shafts to be used in the newer transmissions.

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