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    1989 Plymouth Voyager
    2.5L 8-valve Turbo / A523

    Wanted one of these vans for a long time since George Kish had his T2 cargo van in the 90’s. Fast forward to Feb 2022 long time friend and fellow SDAC member Tommy Beranek (tommy) text me pics of a van near him that we could get for cheap. After seeing it was full of Chicago rust we looked around. Austin Poling had a much cleaner van and offered to deliver it (thanks again!) for a fair price. The two of us decided to split it 50-50 and see what we could do with spare parts we had laying around. A few of the SDAC Chicago Chapter crew threw some old parts in as well. Most of the hard parts or speed parts for the build are 15-25 years old.

    Nothing to prove, just a fun project for a good time. Due to weather we really didn’t get started with anything until April. Tommy and I both have busy schedules so typically only worked on it a couple hours week. We figured we would use old school methods to modding these motors that we’ve used for over 20 years. Thanks to those who have helped along the way joe_van_duno , shmedley, Nicole Sonnie and several others in SDAC Chicago chapter plus DodgeShadowChik and Nicole for letting us play - we appreciate everything.

    We just got it running and had hoped to bring it to SDAC OVChapter Turbopalooza but snow there lead us to hit the local GLD. It mostly ran high 12’s that day with either of us driving.
    After that day we figured we were done this year and it snowed that week. Early Thanksgiving week GLD announced that they were going to open that weekend so we decided to try again.
    Swapped a smaller turbo on to try something different and went today… Several issues computer crash data log not working at first boost leaks laggy boost again but finally figured it out…

    11.14@125mph backed up with 11.15@123mph. These runs were done on 22-24psi, ~11.0 afr, 12° timing on 110 VP

    We never expected we would hold the van record, but it all came together after several runs chasing gremlins early in the day. Thanks again Brad shmedley and Jaren 22Shelby for giving a hand!

    Although already posted this on @badassperformance facebook and instagram pages, we will archive pics and build info here on T-M because those platforms suck for archiving

    ...more to come!

    Video of 11.15 run:
    https://youtu.be/T2gHUbXQzNA

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    Specs…

    Engine
    Bottom end - Used 2.5L FM Enforcer 3 (JE/GRP) (2005 build, Previously Went 10.90’s in Tommy’s Shelby Charger)
    Head - Used 8v 782 swirl port, 44mm/36.8mm race ported (2002 Build, been on shelf since 2005)
    Used ARP head studs (JT Z)
    Stock mopar head gasket
    Aluminum under drive pulley (NYer)

    Drivetrain
    92 A523 3.77:1, used OBX (JTs Z), bronze shift fork pads, welded intermediate shaft bearing, gusseted case
    Used ACT twin disk clutch (JTs Z)
    ReevesRacing DIY Scatter Shield kit
    Stock shifter and cables
    Stock reman axles
    Used MP long wheel studs (Tommy’s GLHT)

    Induction
    Custom 2-piece sheet metal intake manifold
    BBK 75mm throttle body
    Used Comp cams .499 lift (s60) slider (last used in the Z ~1999) used stock lifters (Karl) and used sliders (Tommy)
    Used Fidanza cam sprocket (JT)
    Used BOV - unknown eBay came with van
    Used Intercooler (Brad)

    Turbo & Exhaust
    Used T3/T4 Hybrid 60-1 Hi-Fi in B Cover / Stage 3 turbine in Chrysler .63 A/R. Used large can wastegate. (Same turbo from the Z when it was 2.2L 8v and first one on 2.4L 16v).
    Race ported/modified 2-1/4” swing valve housing and 3” down pipe
    Custom shorty SS header (unequal length runner)

    Fuel
    Aeromotive A-1000 (JT Z)
    Summit fuel filter
    52 lb/hr Super 60 injectors

    Engine Management & Ignition
    Used FAST Classic (old speed pro) EFI with FM distributor
    Used MSD 6-AL
    Used Jacobs coil
    Used Magnecor wires
    NGK GR5 plugs

    Suspension
    Used KYB GR2 struts MP road race springs
    Rear lowering blocks

    Rollers
    24.5” x 8.5” M&H and Moroso skinnies on Bogarts borrowed from the Z
    Last edited by BadAssPerformance; 12-26-2022 at 03:59 AM.

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    I can't like this thread enough. Glad it all came together and the track was open still
    Silent Tom...
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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    Congrats guys. It's good to see an et war in the minivan segment. I can't wait for details on the build.

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    Congrats, this is awesome to see. Inspiring to see the attention T-Vans are getting lately, and pushing the envelope. Excited to see the combination to put this together!

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    nice job guys. looking forward to next summer

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    JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    Thanks guys, we are pretty excited it has performed better than expected for first times out and hoping some room for improvement.

    Need to figure out best way to add pics from mobile tapatalk doesn’t seem to so may need to use full version

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    Some pics as it arrived mid February a few months ago - Thanks again Austin for help with delivery!

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    So I guess I'll be the first to ask. Ported stocker, or header for the turbo?

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    JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    So I guess I'll be the first to ask. Ported stocker, or header for the turbo?
    C’mon man, LoL…. Shorty unequal length SS header

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    C’mon man, LoL…. Shorty unequal length SS header
    I knew it! In all seriousness, did you have a stock style swing valve, or a v band outlet like the app units from back when? External gate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    I knew it! In all seriousness, did you have a stock style swing valve, or a v band outlet like the app units from back when? External gate?
    Race ported 2-1/4" SV on stock large can WGA

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    Wow. That will yield some incredible gains should you guys decide to upgrade for the upcoming season. I've wanted to try that ever since Pat posted up his results some years ago. I can't wait for more pictures.

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    cam, head, turbo, ecu?

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    That's fantastic! Congrats on the great runs. I love the 'we just threw some old speed parts on it and everything came together' attitude! LOL
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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    Thanks guys… added specs to post 1

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    Looks like a pretty straightforward recipe. I'm impressed with it though. It all worked very well as a system for sure.

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Thanks guys… added specs to post 1
    Finally! Thanks.
    Now we know the secret sauce recipe! 😆

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    Nice work !!

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    One of the first projects for the minivan to get it ready for the 5-speed swap was to freshen up the A523 that came with it - cleaned up then gusseted case, welded intermediate shaft bearing, drain plug installed, used OBX diff that was in the Z, new bearings and seals plus Lengel bronze fork pads! Not all the tricks but enough to get it started. (Yes this was built between cars on the garage floor with some time on welding table and workbench and yes this was one of the filthiest cases I have ever seen!)

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    Last edited by BadAssPerformance; 12-26-2022 at 04:02 AM.

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    Re: JT and Silent Tom's 1989 Plymouth Voyager Turbo / 5-Speed

    I like your turning torque tool. I might have to make one like that and see how I like it vs the Miller tool.

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