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    popping out of 1st won't go into 5th

    OK, 1983 465 trans in a turismo/Shelby clone. 2.2 NA

    My son and I yanked the engine & trans (43k on it) to put in a clutch and re-seal & gasket it so it doesn't drip anymore. Got it back in / together and now it pops out of 1st unless you hold the shifter and it only grinds when you think you're in 5th.

    I noticed that the engine is rocking front to back much more than before. You can really feel it in the shifter too. Inspection shows one of us did not tighten the front mount. Is there adjustment in the shift mechanism? I noticed a pinch bolt near the catalytic convertor on the shift tube. One of the plastic cups pops off the ball pretty easily - I drilled it and put a cotter pin through it to keep it on.

    Any help, thoughts, suggestions?

    Update: followed FSM adjustment procedures - it was a little off but still no joy.

    Realized afterwards we used some of the 525? brackets on the 465 - doesn't the 465 bracket mount to the car/K member? We transferred the trans mounted ones from the T1 driveline over to the 465. He's got to search the parts boxes for the other shifter brackets & links tomorrow.
    Last edited by gears351; 07-29-2021 at 06:10 PM.

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    Re: popping out of 1st won't go into 5th

    That's a tough one. It could be in the linkage, and most likely is on account of the fact that you pulled the trans before the problem started. I'm not familiar enough with the 465 bracketry, or using 525 stuff on that trans.

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    Re: popping out of 1st won't go into 5th

    I'll be sure to post my findings.

    Trying to find pics of the 465 brackets (and a shot of where the hood prop rod connects to the core support....)

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    Re: popping out of 1st won't go into 5th

    The A525 in my Laser did this when I first got it. It was a low mileage car, 26K miles. It turned out that the previous owner had forgotten to fill the transmission with oil after he had it out for a clutch change.
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    Re: popping out of 1st won't go into 5th

    Got the right brackets and aligned the shifter, no good - turns out the replacement end bearing on the 2ndary shaft of the trans NEEDS the external snap ring! Cleaned and swapped the old bearing back onto the shaft and all 5 gears are there!

    Now to change the failing wp/alt belt.....

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    Re: popping out of 1st won't go into 5th

    Quote Originally Posted by gears351 View Post
    Got the right brackets and aligned the shifter, no good - turns out the replacement end bearing on the 2ndary shaft of the trans NEEDS the external snap ring! Cleaned and swapped the old bearing back onto the shaft and all 5 gears are there!

    Now to change the failing wp/alt belt.....
    Yep. Those snap rings are pretty important. Glad you got it figured out.

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