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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Glad to see it's getting some love. I think the hood on it was the one I gave Jim from #235 and think Dave gave him a new hood too. Last SDAC Chicago Chapter meet that we helped with it a few years back, it was close to running.

    Here is a pick of Jim 'driving' it (SDAC powered) from the meet 4/16/2011 we put the bottom end and trans in it

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Thanks for the pic JT. It definitely ran on its own the other day, if barely. That's to be expected with no sensors hooked up and a leaking rail though. I'm hoping my back ordered Deutsch connector arrives as scheduled tomorrow and I can finish off the rail fuel and electrical installation before moving on to the hard parts. I think it should at least be able to run in a couple weeks.

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    The knipex wire strippers worked well on the tefzel insulation ?
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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Quote Originally Posted by 135sohc View Post
    The knipex wire strippers worked well on the tefzel insulation ?
    Very well. While the Paladin strippers would be satisfactory to all but the most rigorous inspection for insulation being 100% uniform after the strip, the Kinpex units made it look perfect. The wire underneath looks like it wasn't touched (just like the Paladin) and the insulation is perfectly removed too. Given the that Paladin unit was only tested with one gauge of wire, I feel much more confident in the Knipex unit for the long haul, butin some situations, I could see the Paladin strippers being used. That would most likely be for an emergency repair in a place which I can't get access to use the Knipex strippers.

    Either way, I feel like a high roller with my new crimpers. That's good, because I would have died if I had to pay $350 for a set.

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    Thanks for the pic JT. It definitely ran on its own the other day, if barely. That's to be expected with no sensors hooked up and a leaking rail though. I'm hoping my back ordered Deutsch connector arrives as scheduled tomorrow and I can finish off the rail fuel and electrical installation before moving on to the hard parts. I think it should at least be able to run in a couple weeks.
    no problem, I'll have to see what pics I have of it from 20 years ago...

    Awesome to hear it ran!

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    no problem, I'll have to see what pics I have of it from 20 years ago...

    Awesome to hear it ran!
    Wow. That would be incredible to see. I've emailed back and forth a bit with the second owner and he definitely mentioned some old school SDAC connections. This car has a lot of history, and I really hope I can get her back on the road soon.

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Here are a couple from 1999 Chicagoland Mopar Connection "Moaprs on the Mississippi" show in Dubuque, IA. Steve (Flaco Rosso) , Ralph (GLHS), Dave (Ram) and me (Z) cruised on out there across Rt. 20 most of the way. fun trip.

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    My goodness. The Deutsch DT series connectors are out of stock everywhere I look. I'm half tempted to go the chinese knockoff route just so I can finish this injector sub harness. This is insane.

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Amphenol AT series are supposed to be the same. The terminal locking wedges are different between Deutsch and Amphenol (the connector shell and wedge have to be the same mfg) but delcity claims they are plug together compatible.
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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Quote Originally Posted by 135sohc View Post
    Amphenol AT series are supposed to be the same. The terminal locking wedges are different between Deutsch and Amphenol (the connector shell and wedge have to be the same mfg) but delcity claims they are plug together compatible.
    Thanks for the tip. If I don't have anything show up in a few days, I'll go that route.

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Well, I received some suitable terminals and housings recently. I have the rail in the car, with the coolant feed to the heater core and oil line hooked up. The car definitely ran today. Joy pointed out that the brake lights were permanently on. I unplugged the brake switch and they went off. I'm thinking the brake switch isn't positioned correctly, so that should be a relatively easy fix. Here are some pics from today for documentation purposes.
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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    The car definitely ran today. .
    Awesome news!
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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Cool!

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    The brake switch is most certainly mispositioned, so that should be easy with the exception of the close quarters it's in. Rad hoses should be in today and I'll block off the coolant to the turbo for now. We're getting really, really close!

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Well, I fired it up and set the timing today. The teal converter doesn't help to see the mark with the timing light at all, but I'm pretty sure I got it. This thing might run and drive by the end of the summer!

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    The car runs and moves under its own power now with little issue. Stopping is another matter, entirely. I replaced the MC today with the 24mm unit because it was bad, and in anticipation of brake upgrades. Unfortunately, the brake line going to the right rear blew out when I was trying to clear a blockage in the left rear line. I'll most likely have to drop the tank in order to properly replace that section. On the up side, it appears as though the car is much more solid underneath than I was hoping for on account of the rust at the front of the left rear wheel well.

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    progress!
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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Excited to hear it runs/drives and almost stops! Yeah i recall that car being fairly solid the times we worked on it at Chicago Chapter meets at Jim's.

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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Relatively little to update. I dropped the tank and replaced the section of brake line which runs behind it. I noticed that the fuel tank grommet was in pretty rough shape, so I ordered up a few of them and will replace it when I put the tank back up. I'll take the time to coat everything with cosmoline while I'm waiting for the parts to get here. Tonight I'm also going to order up some rear disks, pads and bearings. This project is really beginning to drag on.
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    Re: Falco Rosso SL#356

    Congrats on the acquisition
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