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    Well I tried...

    I contacted a company called RCV performance about making high performance CV axles for us. They said sure...minimum order of 20 at 2 grand a pop. Ouch! I don't want to be considered a "cheap turbo Mopar guy" but that's alot of jingle.

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    Re: Well I tried...

    Was it JUST the axle or were they going to make the CV's with the cups and all, too? What materials and processes? What kind of warranty? I mean yeah, that is a LOT of money for axles that only a VERY small percentage of the group could even make use of, but it would be interesting to know what was behind that price point, too.

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    Re: Well I tried...

    That sounds like the "We aren't interested in making these" price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper1 View Post
    Was it JUST the axle or were they going to make the CV's with the cups and all, too? What materials and processes? What kind of warranty? I mean yeah, that is a LOT of money for axles that only a VERY small percentage of the group could even make use of, but it would be interesting to know what was behind that price point, too.
    I didn't get into any particulars with them. Honestly I would spend the money on a set but can't invest 40 grand into something I know I would never get my money back on.

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    Re: Well I tried...

    I think there may be a solution for DSS however, we would need to find cores. I will reach back out to them.

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    Re: Well I tried...

    Shadow says he uses chrysler dynasty axles .. maybe we should note that ...though I remember him posting there was a difference between the factory ones and some replacements ..and that you want the factory style..

    me .. never laid eyes on a dynasty axle so I wouldn't know the difference ..

    maybe we should ask him ..(?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Johny Dodge View Post
    Shadow says he uses chrysler dynasty axles .. maybe we should note that ...though I remember him posting there was a difference between the factory ones and some replacements ..and that you want the factory style..

    me .. never laid eyes on a dynasty axle so I wouldn't know the difference ..

    maybe we should ask him ..(?)
    Dynasty axle is only good for L body. You're suppose to use two driver side Dynasty axles with intermediate shaft, only factory Dynasty axle, not aftermarket ones.

    I just use Autozone unequal length for my Omni.
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    thanks for that ^ .. I know he mentioned using a one piece intermediate shaft that he'd made too

    - with some sort of hanger bearing solution I'd kinda like that idea

    thinking I'm gonna need some "dime store" axles for my trans swap .. just to be able to do the swap
    .. but with a base log motor then stock TII for now , no biggie
    just hate wasting the money

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    Re: Well I tried...

    I'd be interested in a hanger bearing solution .. I've saved , for years a nice section of steel tube , maybe ten inches long and 5-6 inches round .. for a shield around or over the intermediate shaft stuff

    when I did the turbo / efi conversion in my 86 turismo with the carb car 305 trans , 13 inch goodyear vectors and no areo effects.. yes I did note a really big driving difference in with the equal length swap ..mostly when really light , on a highly crowned road and under power

    that car would get to third gear without going anywhere .. dry pavement.. wet pavement you would spin the little goodyears right off just trying to accelerate for 40-50 mph .. in NORMAL but wet conditions

    oh balls of fun though

    adding the shelby airdam I didn't feel the air under the floor when cresting my local whoop de do's..

    adding the shelby suspension and the weight of the 15 inch crab wheels N tires .. it felt like it wanted to stay on the road..
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    Re: Well I tried...

    From speedfreek500's Holset Omni thread.
    http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...ht=holset+omni

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    I went to pick n pull on sunday and got two driver side axles, 1 from a dynasty and 1 from a Spirit. We all thought that "L" Body axles only fit l bodies........ We were all wrong and Shadow is correct that Dynasty axles DO fit the L body cars. I did loosen the front mount at the rad support and the passanger mount also, I installed the passanger side first and then the driver side. There is 1/4" like shadow said after the engine is center. The only problem i had was the driver inboard clamp was rubbing on the boot, simple fix. I removed the clamp and slid the boot out farther and reinstalled the clamp.

    After the road test i did not hear any noise from the cv joints bottoming out. So i guess the Dodge L body axles that were so hard to find in the pick n pull yards is the past.

    A very BIG thanks goes out to Shadow for telling me his tricks for better axles!


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    Re: Well I tried...

    You tried raxles.com? They are known in the Audi world for some cars that aren’t commonly needing strong axels. Never used them, but heard good things about them.


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    https://www.detroitaxle.com/shop/cv-...smd=Iroc%20R/T

    45 bucks
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    really ?
    and they're actually good ?

    cheap parts store ones used to be 300 odd bucks with a 100 & somethin' dollar core charge .. up here in toronto

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    Yes, Dynasty and minivans have larger inner CV's, long time trick to use those with correct center bar for the application.

    L-body axles are shorter than the others, so a AA,E,G,H,J,K,P axle *may* fit but wont have the correct plunge unless the engine/trans is shifted over.

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    Re: Well I tried...

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Yes, Dynasty and minivans have larger inner CV's, long time trick to use those with correct center bar for the application.

    L-body axles are shorter than the others, so a AA,E,G,H,J,K,P axle *may* fit but wont have the correct plunge unless the engine/trans is shifted over.
    Good to know dynasty are the same as minivans. Do you know if v6 dynasty is the same? There is one at my local junk yard if that’s the case.


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    Re: Well I tried...

    I bought a set of Detroit axles for my van after another member said he had good luck with them. They cost around $80 for the pair, shipped for free and arrived in couple days.
    I have not installed them since my van runs and drives. The Detroit axles are my spares in case I have a failure.
    The axles are built to the stock length and appear to use factory ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajakeski View Post
    I bought a set of Detroit axles for my van after another member said he had good luck with them. They cost around $80 for the pair, shipped for free and arrived in couple days.
    I have not installed them since my van runs and drives. The Detroit axles are my spares in case I have a failure.
    The axles are built to the stock length and appear to use factory ends.
    Problem is Detroit Axle is out of stock for the longer CV axle.

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    Re: Well I tried...

    so I guess a pair of Detroit axles iroc r/t axles will do ..for now at least
    - I'm planing to use a dual pivot cross member without narrowing it .. so daytona size axles are exactly what I need
    - hopefully I still have a shelby z intermediate shaft assembly .. after moving

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Yes, Dynasty and minivans have larger inner CV's, long time trick to use those with correct center bar for the application.

    L-body axles are shorter than the others, so a AA,E,G,H,J,K,P axle *may* fit but wont have the correct plunge unless the engine/trans is shifted over.

    Did they offer an unequal length setup in the dynasty or would one be able to make one with the correct center shaft?

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    Re: Well I tried...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon411 View Post
    Good to know dynasty are the same as minivans. Do you know if v6 dynasty is the same? There is one at my local junk yard if that’s the case.


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