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    Prototype Two Piece Intake?

    I have seen one other intake similar to this one, but it was more traditionally finished. When I saw this one recently for a good price, I knew I had to have it. There are differences everywhere on the intakes and I'll try to point out some of them which are more interesting to me. If anyone has information about this piece, please post up. I would love to know about the history of two piece intake development, or perhaps some crazy situation which caused a small number of these to be made by a different supplier.

    From afar, they look nearly identical with the exception of the wrinkle black on the production intake.
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    First thing that will jump out at most people is the lack of a 4th rib on the intake. Sure, there's the infamous 5 rib, which is better than the four, but is the three worse than the four? We'll get to that in a bit.
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    When it comes to the main body of the upper half, there is a noticeable lack of a parting line. There is also no provision for a 3/8" NPT hole on the front side either. The finish on the "prototype" unit is significantly more smooth than on the production piece. This isn't just the lack of a wrinkle finish either.
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    At the front of the neck area, there are a host of differences. One can see that the proto unit is set up to have a PCV pipe attached to the boss in the production unit that was threaded for use in holding the support bar that bolts to the head. The opening is slightly larger on the proto unit for the TB, but the flange has much more meat around the opening on the production piece. There appears to be a port for the AIS to vent through on the pre production unit. It is flush with the face of the flange and pressed in before being bent from the looks of it. It curls up and toward the passenger side. I have no idea why that was done. Lastly, there is the charge temp sensor threaded into a boss which is unused, but still remains on the production unit.
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    I didn't realize until I began to take pictures for comparison purposes that I grabbed my two piece that had been poorly ported before my purchase. Although it was a real bargain, and not hogged out too far to be saved, it makes this comparison more difficult. There has certainly been some material removed on the production piece, but one can still clearly see how much less the humps intrude into the runners. That makes sense, as the outside measures well over .1" more on the proto intake.
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    Note the orientation of the knock sensor on the prototype piece. It would have been much easier to swap them out if it would have remained at this angle.
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    One less port on the back side of the proto unit too. There is also a huge difference in the portion which sticks out to hold the wiring bracket for the AIS and TPS. No boss on the back top side of the TB flange is present and it shows how much smaller the neck is than the stock piece. If you know the differences in the flange size.
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    These photos help to illustrate the differences between the size of the neck leading to their respective plenums. The proto piece is much more pinched off and abrupt. This would not be good for porting at all. With how easy it can be to go through the casting on the stock piece, I would think this prototype intake would require a lot of welding to make a satisfactory transition. It may not be noticeable, but the proto plenum is significantly narrower when measured from the front near the valve cover to the back of it near the firewall. It's not a huge difference, but given the length of that piece it probably makes a surprising difference in overall volume. Again, not good at all when trying to make power.
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    While there are a couple different casting numbers on the prototype piece, one being on the bottom side of the lower, and the other on the under side of the plenum piece, that's all you get compared to the stocker. The Pentastar, firing order, "normal" casting numbers, cylinder numbers, and Ace/co. logo are all missing.
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    Last edited by cordes; 08-30-2020 at 02:45 PM.

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