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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Quote Originally Posted by wowzer View Post
    The flashable 4play would be the one to get. No reason to do the old one. I would like a flashable one!!
    What cha trying to say, Morris?
    I have one for you, This is the one that the flash 28C010 chip is like $30 each but the 39SF010 s just about a dollar or two but slower. Not sure the different in the real world as Rob used both.
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    miles, how exactly does it work? i assume there is another chip that latches a base address and tricks the ecu on where the memory starts.., i.e. ecu thinks it is at 0xc000 but the adapter is really pointing it to 1c000. so this "x" play flash adapter could be used instead of the existing smec/sbec adapters? also could fix the issue with flashing the 59k and larger ecu bins....
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan H View Post
    I missed how the individual cals are selected. ?
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Johny Dodge View Post
    I'm glad to see this topic come back around

    from what I remember reading and correct me if wrong -please

    but I thought the 4 play was for the lm's and the 2 play was for the smec

    (??)
    Rob made me one for a SMEC a long time ago. I never got the car to run on it but that was more my fault (Conformal Coating in the socket) then the part I think
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Johny Dodge View Post
    I'm glad to see this topic come back around

    from what I remember reading and correct me if wrong -please

    but I thought the 4 play was for the lm's and the 2 play was for the smec

    (??)
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Quote Originally Posted by chromguy View Post
    oh ya, thx.
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan H View Post
    I missed how the individual cals are selected. ?
    Dan, you use a four way switch to select the tune you want
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    I've thought the 2 or 4 play deal would be interesting with a complete secondary fuel system
    - fuel cell , pump , lines and a spacer between the intake & head with another set of injector bungs

    switch 4 play switch to race tune or drive home tune - select fuel pump A or B and switch your injector drive power circuit set A or B and call it a day

    no worries about what fuel is in the line or what size the injector..

    with on/off switches you could add as many preset boost controllers as you want too

    - someone around here made the exact spacer plate we need for that but I have no idea who
    - just a saved pic I might be able to find again

    I believe it was part of someone's intake project
    basically looked like a inch thick manifold flange with the needed bungs machined in the tops of the ports

    from what I understand about injector placement- moving the injector further back up the runner away from the port should improve mileage and emissions (?) and for performance you want the injector close and directly aimed to the valve (?)
    so my little idea might have some merit (?)

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    Re: Fourplay how to

    I ordered serveal of the flashable fourplayboards but im not sure if i got the right ones as they arent labeled which is for which on oshkosh. i also cant seem to fin a BOM or assembly instructions anywhere, the wayback machine keeps giving me blank pages

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    Re: Fourplay how to

    I can help you. First which OSHPark board did you order?
    Send me a link
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    These are the ones I ordered.
    Digisw https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/NkS5v7U7
    Flashable FourPlay https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/GNPa6f7Z
    Sci Con base https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/7ZjncOAf



    Hopefully i got the SMEC setup.

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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Quote Originally Posted by crusty shadow View Post
    Hopefully i got the SMEC setup.
    Yes you did get the SMEC setup.
    I will need a day or so to create the BOM for you.
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Quote Originally Posted by chromguy View Post
    Yes you did get the SMEC setup.
    I will need a day or so to create the BOM for you.
    Have you had time to get that BOM together?

    I also need one for the diagnostic connector board, im making up a bunch of these to give away to local club members.

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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Quote Originally Posted by crusty shadow View Post
    Have you had time to get that BOM together?

    I also need one for the diagnostic connector board, im making up a bunch of these to give away to local club members.
    I did not forget you, I will assemble the BOM for you over the next day or so.
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Here is the BOM I created from my notes.
    SMEC fourPlay
    0.1uF 1206 you need four
    74hc148 SOIC
    28C010 PLCC32
    74HC00 NAND need 2
    10K 1206 you need 4

    SCI adapter
    1K 1206
    1N914 SOD323
    male solder terminals Digikey A100452CT-ND
    Last edited by chromguy; 03-11-2020 at 08:32 AM.
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Crap, Im sorry, if forgot that I have the DigiSw display too.

    I'll post assembly instructions once I have everything here, boards showed up last week.

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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Quote Originally Posted by crusty shadow View Post
    Crap, Im sorry, if forgot that I have the DigiSw display too. .
    WELL that will cost you twice the other two...LOL
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    Quote Originally Posted by chromguy View Post
    WELL that will cost you twice the other two...LOL
    um twice what? lol

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    Re: Fourplay how to

    I will try to build the BOM for you over the next day or so
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    Re: Fourplay how to

    R1-R7 390R M1206
    R8-R11 10K R1206
    LED Kingbright 14.2mm
    IC2 74LS148 SOIC16
    IC1 4511 SOIC16
    C1-C4 0.1uF C1206


    I am uncertain of the switch part number
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