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    Rust protection

    Hello
    what´s the good brand and model of paint to protect from rust? somebody use por15, fluid film, fertan-usa, upol?
    thanks

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    Re: Rust protection

    The factory comes with its own rust prevention.. the valve cover gasket or oil pan gasket will leave constantly and keep the underside evenly coated with oil as long as you continue to drive it.

    but POR15 works.

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    Re: Rust protection

    yeah but it only saves the center of the car
    now , if we could pressurize the wheel bearings with engine oil or trans fluid we could save the rocker panels too

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    Re: Rust protection

    I like Fluid Film. It's not a petroleum product, and it doesn't wash off. I respray it about once a year on my daily driver.

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    Re: Rust protection

    Quote Originally Posted by 89BaronGTC View Post
    I like Fluid Film. It's not a petroleum product, and it doesn't wash off. I respray it about once a year on my daily driver.
    I'm a huge fan also. I used a kit from Eastwood to encapsulate and undercoat the bottom of my NYer. I also use fluid film each fall and the car has held up very well.

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    Re: Rust protection

    in canada we have something called
    rust check
    it works well
    there are shops that do the car and rattle cans in the stores to do smaller things

    it also removes a lot of rust if reasonably light
    it prolongs the life of wiring insulation and I used it to fix a totally seized carburetor throttle plate
    granted I did forget it for 6-8 months soaking in the pan sitting under my truck project but my carb works

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    Re: Rust protection

    While we're on the subject, I have found Rust Bullet to be pretty nice too.

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    Re: Rust protection

    I have used POR-15 extensively on my Shelby Lancer and old Omni GLH Turbo and it has held up well. I did most all the chassis components and sub frames when rebuilding the suspension/steering/brakes etc about 15 years ago.

    The only thing I regret using it on was the fuel tank. It doesn’t adhere to galvanized very well. You also don’t want to use it on anything that is going to have direct sunlight exposure since UV will break it down.
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    Re: Rust protection

    I'll add
    for galvanised parts - like the front bell housing covers

    if you have a decent piece to start clean it thoroughly , rub it some with the steel or bronze wool to smooth it some and spray it with rattle can clear automotive lacquer .. the cheep stuff at the box store will do fine

    in fact it will look awesome , forever

    engine degreaser will not only help clean it , it will also neutralize the zinc in the galvanizing

    (learned from dad : the degreaser helps keep paint from peeling off NEW old school GAL eavestroughing)

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    Re: Rust protection

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    While we're on the subject, I have found Rust Bullet to be pretty nice too.
    i second. rust bullet and fluid film.

    that said, looking at miles (chromguy) 87 shadow thats been daily driven in canada since new makes me want to try his grease spraying method.....

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    Re: Rust protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    i second. rust bullet and fluid film.

    that said, looking at miles (chromguy) 87 shadow thats been daily driven in canada since new makes me want to try his grease spraying method.....

    Brian
    The grease spraying is very effective especially in the heavily salted area, like Nova Scotia. It provides a significant barrier from the elements, My dad has sprayed dozens of vehicles with similar results. The downside is working on the car is messy with no need of BPblaster or similar.... and requires special high pressure sprayer
    My brother uses a easy sprayable gel as it can be applied by using a simple pneumatic undercoating gun similar to this https://www.ebay.com/itm/LINERXTREEM...-/192441405536 Once the gel dries it leaves behind thin layer of grease. My brother lives in Nova Scotia and has been doing this on a yearly basis for 20 years. His cars all look great even when driven on heavily salted roads. The product is also acceptable with the DOE.
    I will find out the name of the product he uses and report back.
    Regards,
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    Re: Rust protection

    Does anyone use, used motor oil? I'm thinking that if I get a sprayer and put used oil in the rear quarters, and doors it would go a long way toward getting the very hard to reach areas.

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    Re: Rust protection

    it will run out the body drains so you'll need something under the car to catch the extra

    I did the quarter panel bottom seems and poured half a litre in each rocker

    it dribbled for some time but I think it helped even years after as it sat in my yard


    my 79 f150 was driven every day since new
    it was oil sprayed twice every year , spring and fall and still has/had (sold) mint floors to this day

    70's f150 in the salt belt still has floors 40 years later says everything you need to know about oil spray with regularity

    your car actually rots in the spring when it's still full of salt and it rains a lot
    - or parked in the garage where it's sheltered , salty and wet and doesn't freeze

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    Re: Rust protection

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    Does anyone use, used motor oil? I'm thinking that if I get a sprayer and put used oil in the rear quarters, and doors it would go a long way toward getting the very hard to reach areas.
    Yes it works quite well but I new oil is best IMO and for interior of the doors and rockers. Pick the thickest oil you can get. heat it up and then spray. Park the car on a tarp for a few days or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Johny Dodge View Post

    your car actually rots in the spring when it's still full of salt and it rains a lot
    - or parked in the garage where it's sheltered , salty and wet and doesn't freeze
    Yupper
    Regards,
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    Re: Rust protection

    used can have acids in it too
    and it usually STINKS

    re used
    makes really good rusty thread releaser..

    I hadda do my front brake pads last summer
    bleeders were stuck to the point of STOP TRYIN'

    I put a couple of drips off the truck's dip stick on them and came back to them the next day

    with minimal effort they backed out easy

    at 17000 km's + yeah the oil in my truck was pretty used...

    for giggles my grand marquis 4.6 went 100 000 km's and ten years without an oil or filter change
    still ran like new when I decided I didn't need it any more
    granted it had a bad oil leak in the pan and would need 3 litres every few months
    - or rather it would GET 3 every few months...

    I use q-state non synthetic ONLY , ever
    I haven't lost a motor since I gave up regular oil changes with castrol

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    Re: Rust protection

    Fluid Film is good as rust prevention, like on a new car or a southern car with no rust. You still have to take care of whats there if rusting has already started. My 2018 Tacoma Off Road gets the FF treatment yearly for that reason.

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    Re: Rust protection

    Seal Out helped my 1996 Ram live 20+ years. Find it at your local automotive paint supplier.

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