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    2.5L TIII distributor

    What are the options to use keep the SMEC when doing a TIII swap ?
    The different TIII belt shape implies to use a TIII auxiliary gear which is smaller than the stock one.
    How can I adapt the stock distributor to the camshaft (and which one) ?

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    simon (turbovanman) made an adapter. dunno if he still has any around or the plans or whatnot.

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    Thanks
    I will send him a PM unless he looks this thread

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    Some replace the T-III sprocket, shaft and oil pump with regular 8 V parts with success.

    It seems using the larger 8V sprocket slows the oil pump and eliminates some of the T-III oil pump issues.

    A side benefit might be the ability to use an 8V block and distributor if one had room.

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    That seems a good idea but that mean you have to modify the 8V camshaft gears to the TIII camshafts and that also may lead to timing belt not aligned with all the gears (like with hybrid engines).
    A longer 8V timing belt may also be required

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    8 V sprocket on the intermediate shaft, AKA, oil pump drive shaft, not camshafts.

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    Quote Originally Posted by GLHS60 View Post
    8 V sprocket on the intermediate shaft, AKA, oil pump drive shaft, not camshafts.

    Thanks
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    wouldnt that chew up the trapezoidal tooth belt using it on a round tooth sprocket?

    i thought simon had a custom pulley made when he did this.

    i mean you could cut up an extra T3 cam gear and use the part with the teeth and weld it to the intermediate sprocket center section to make a larger diameter pulley for the intermediate shaft.

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    That's what I thought : is it possible to mix TIII and TI sprockets
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    The belts have different shape

    A custom pulley would be best but where to get them made ?
    Welding may work if it is perfect centered and also, like I wrote, there is no problem with belt and sprockets alignment

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    Seems like a lot of work to retain the OE engine management. You have to start weighing the benefits of aftermarket vs the limitations of OE vs cost.
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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    i mean you could cut up an extra T3 cam gear and use the part with the teeth and weld it to the intermediate sprocket center section to make a larger diameter pulley for the intermediate shaft.

    THIS ^
    thinkin' IF there are adjustable cam gears for the r/t motor then checking if the bolt centers for the bolts holding the two pulley halves together , ... it might be easier IF , IF IF IF the bolt centers for the adjustable 8V cam pulley were the same (????)

    so maybe an 8V adjustable center section with the rt's outter cam pulley section simply bolted together

    the 8V cam and intermediate shaft pulley are one and the same just flipped over
    -so that MIGHT allow for an extra way it might fit together if you can use part of two different adjustable pulley sets

    if doable then also being adjustable you can get the tooth to keyway alignment right on the intermediate pulley you've created

    always easier if something can just be bolted together .. and a call to someone .. who sells the adjustable pulleys might answer the question in short order..

    also I've seen posted here of elsewhere a two piece cam pulley made from two cam pulleys
    cut so the centers are overlapped giving space for the bolts to hold it together
    (I think being able to flip a section over allows the parts to overlap instead of trying to occupy the same space at the same time as the center hub is offset)

    a home made pulley using the r/t's cam outer and the inner section done the same way could seriously reduce the cost

    so machine shop with drill press vs machine shop with welder
    if made adjustable then there's the ability to correct any alignment mistake in making your custom pulley
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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    I have 2 adjustable 16V camshaft sprocket and 8V one, I will try

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    I received the 2.5 TIII forged pistons with the other parts needed (ARP studs, cometic HG, ....)
    I just need now to find a way to use the stock distributor
    Sent a PM to Simon

    Do I need a torque plate for bore the cylinder ?

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    Have you priced aftermarket engine management yet?
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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    Do I need a torque plate for bore the cylinder ?

    for boring , no
    for honning , maybe , if you want to

    depends on the "level" of perfection you're after in this build

    and not only the head bolts or studs need to be torqued down but so do the main cap bolts or studs so all assembled torque stress' are present when you hone it

    and , what car is this going into?
    that answer might help with suggestions about engine controllers

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    Thanks
    It is going in a shadow
    I would like to avoid any more work for the electronic and money too, I have already emptied my pockets.
    If I knew how much I had to spent for a TIII engine, I would have never tried

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    The main problem I have right now is the head, seller removed the camshafts and one of the rocker arm doesn't move and the bolts have been replaced for a reason I don't know


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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    Is the spring rust a problem ? Do I have to removed them for clean them ?

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    Re: 2.5L TIII distributor

    It is a 1989 SMEC

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