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    Re: My '90 Plymouth Voyager: suspension and brakes content

    Quote Originally Posted by fastasleep View Post
    Yes. It has a LOT more in it, but I can't rev past 5000 RPM. Converter? Too much backpressure from small turbo?
    Did you ever solve this?
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    Re: My '90 Plymouth Voyager: suspension and brakes content

    Quote Originally Posted by fastasleep View Post
    Yes. It has a LOT more in it, but I can't rev past 5000 RPM. Converter? Too much backpressure from small turbo?
    Not familiar with Big Stuff, but are you sure it is being limited by revs? Not a speed limiter? Happens in all gears?
    What happens at 5000rpm?
    Are you logging?
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    Re: My '90 Plymouth Voyager: suspension and brakes content

    Wheming, I wasn't logging at the track, but I saw what it was doing while looking at the RPM and AFR at the dyno. We probably made 40 pulls with it.
    I don't have any wires hooked to the trans, so I don't know how it would limit at a certain speed. Apparently, I was having this exact issue even before I put the Big Stuff on. It does happen in all gears (first is so quick I can't really feel it there), but it definitely happens in 2nd and high gear.
    Tryingbe, NO! I forgot about that! It is the exact same issue. I went back and read the other post you reminded me of.....gonna look further at all of that.

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    At 5000 RPM it just stays there; can't push past it. It may happen at different RPM, but it is always still really close to 5K. It changes based on boost. The higher I go with the boost, the higher it will go in RPM before it hangs. After a second or two of hanging, the AFR gets a little richer....goes from 11.2 to 10.5 about.

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    Re: My '90 Plymouth Voyager: suspension and brakes content

    Everything I can think of has already been brought up. Will it rev past 5k in neutral? If not, then it's not load based and I would suspect valve springs or something in the tune preventing it from going any higher. If it does, then yeah, I'd say exhaust restriction.

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    Re: My '90 Plymouth Voyager: suspension and brakes content

    I am running Forward Motion, Inc.'s Enforcer II turbo. I have the .63 A/R turbine housing on it. I am using a Turbos Unleashed 3" swing valve with 3" exhaust behind it. The exhaust past the SV is about 30" long with no cat or muffler.
    This does have a ported head and modified intake. I am running a 475 cam from Forward Motion.
    Any thoughts on restriction using these parts?

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    Re: My '90 Plymouth Voyager: suspension and brakes content

    Quote Originally Posted by fastasleep View Post
    I am running Forward Motion, Inc.'s Enforcer II turbo. I have the .63 A/R turbine housing on it. I am using a Turbos Unleashed 3" swing valve with 3" exhaust behind it. The exhaust past the SV is about 30" long with no cat or muffler.
    This does have a ported head and modified intake. I am running a 475 cam from Forward Motion.
    Any thoughts on restriction using these parts?
    Did you degree the cam? Do you have an adjustable cam gear?
    Wayne H.

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    Re: My '90 Plymouth Voyager: suspension and brakes content

    sounds like it may be valve springs... .or cam timing.

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    Re: My '90 Plymouth Voyager: suspension and brakes content

    I'm putting my money on valve springs. Replace them, I bet you rev until it spits rockers...

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    Re: My '90 Plymouth Voyager: suspension and brakes content

    I did not degree my cam. With the last build, I had the same problem I am having now. Tryingbe reminded me that I had this same problem with the last set-up. I think it is time that I degree my cam. I have an adjustable cam gear that I was using with the old set-up, but I am using a stock cam gear now. I had Mike DeMoss at Forward Motion look my head over when I bought my short block. The head was good.
    I already have the Mopar 061 springs and I don't even think they have 100 miles on them yet. However, I think I will pull the valve cover and give the valves a push to see if they are consistent and hard to push down.
    I am trying to actually diagnose my problem instead of just guessing and throwing parts at it.
    Again, thanks for all the input! I am out of town right now, but hope to have some time to investigate next week.
    Thanks!!!!

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    Re: My '90 Plymouth Voyager: suspension and brakes content

    even if you didnt degree your cam, if you put an adjustable cam gear on and retarded it significantly and it made your powerband rise, it would help you diagnose and it would be quick and easy.

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