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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Boots, what's your take on the shaft design? Should it have the support "nose", or will that limit options too much?

    Personally, I like the idea of a shaft supported on both sides...

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    When I get the final design on the drums made up I will post up for people to get in on them. Like always the more we can get the cheaper they will be. The 904 frictions have a lot more friction material and we can get the good race frictions. I'm also testing a billet caged front planet that will change ratio to 2.45/1.45 ratio instead of 2.69/169.

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    Can someone take a picture of this support?

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Quote Originally Posted by boots View Post
    When I get the final design on the drums made up I will post up for people to get in on them. Like always the more we can get the cheaper they will be. The 904 frictions have a lot more friction material and we can get the good race frictions. I'm also testing a billet caged front planet that will change ratio to 2.45/1.45 ratio instead of 2.69/169.

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    Can someone take a picture of this support?
    The extended nose does not support anything, it only prevents the shaft from moving too far forward. (see photo of stock input shaft.
    The 300m/904 shaft is flat as in blunt nose at the end of the splines. Does not have the 5/8 extension.
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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Yea known of my shafts or the Donato shafts I've seen have that. I've had one trans shove the input shaftout. I ended up tack welding the snap ring to the drum. I do think the tolerance to the drum could used tightened.

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    I heard back from John on the billet levers. What he has left are all 4.7 ratio.
    Price is $38.95/ea + shipping.
    Contact him directly.
    donatoeng@aol.com
    Other information he provided:
    "The only levers I have left are the 4.7 ratio. With these levers you can run a lower line pressure or leave the cushion spring in the servo so you do not have such a hard hit into second."
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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Ok, just checking in. Hopefully we hear back soon from Donato Engineering. He was just waiting for the estimate for the hardening.

    Here is what we have in the group.
    Please jump on board if you want one.

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Danato emailed me that he had a final price and sent you an update.....

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Quote Originally Posted by rdnoel86 View Post
    Danato emailed me that he had a final price and sent you an update.....
    Ohh?? So now you are our point man!

    Sorry I was busy the last couple days with Dr appointments and working trying to get a trans back in the van.

    Yes, John emailed me the other day, and here is what he said:


    Wayne,

    I talked to the heat treater and have all the numbers together.
    The last batch I made was in 2012 and selling price was $395.00.

    Due to material and processing increases since then the cost each for a 15 piece run will be $420.75ea.

    These will be the same as before, 300 M steel, heat treated, with ground journals.

    Please let your contacts know and looking forward to hearing back from you.

    Thanks, John
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    So, $420.75/ea USD.
    Please reply here with any quantity changes and lets get this rolling!
    Thanks!
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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    I'm still in for one.

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Ok, we need 15 units for that pricing.

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    I'll commit to buying 1, when do you need the $$

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Quote Originally Posted by onerippinturbo2 View Post
    I'll commit to buying 1, when do you need the $$
    Probably soon. I'm just waiting to hear back from John how we need to manage it. Meaning if everyone just orders directly through him, or if I need to run point and get everyones payment.



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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Once we get enough confirmed and the order is going to be placed, is it okay to up your order? I want one for sure but I'm heavily leaning towards two because I want a trans built and ready on the shelf. I think by the time we're ready I'm going to opt for a second one.

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Going to ask my buddy with the Consulier as well, as he's thinking of doing a 16V auto conversion.

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Yep....still in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Torqueflite View Post
    Going to ask my buddy with the Consulier as well, as he's thinking of doing a 16V auto conversion.

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    Once we get enough confirmed and the order is going to be placed, is it okay to up your order? I want one for sure but I'm heavily leaning towards two because I want a trans built and ready on the shelf. I think by the time we're ready I'm going to opt for a second one.
    I would say get yourself down for 2 now. That is why i want 3. I don't know if these will get made again or when, but if they need 10-15 to get a run, it won't be soon. And material costs always seem to go up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Torqueflite View Post
    Going to ask my buddy with the Consulier as well, as he's thinking of doing a 16V auto conversion.

    Chad Kilback
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    So you want just one for yourself?
    Tell your buddy to think swiftly, I am ready to get this rolling as soon as everyone confirms i will be giving John the final count.

    Quote Originally Posted by rdnoel86 View Post
    Yep....still in.
    Thanks brother!


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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    I'm still on board for one of course.


    Working on clearing the decks.

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    I am on board as well.

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

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    Re: Possible A413/31TH Billet Input Shaft Group Buy

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    So you want just one for yourself?
    Tell your buddy to think swiftly, I am ready to get this rolling as soon as everyone confirms i will be giving John the final count.

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    Consulier guy is tire kicking on it. So just one for me.

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