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    Brake Caliper Designs

    Is there a Chrysler brand brake system that has the ebrake built into the caliper, or where the rotor is also a drum for the ebrake? I am most interested in the first type if it exists.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    Maybe you're looking for 85 86 daytona rear brakes? They had a parking brake build into the caliper that clamped onto the rotor. Possibly other years and other models too.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    This is what I use on my DD, They are just OK, mine are from a 88 Shelby Z.
    My 87 CSX uses the better ebrake inside a drum within the rotor and these are a much better design. Found on 89+ rear disk cars with both vented and non-vented designs. A few Shelby's received these earlier than regular production
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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    87-88 rear disc calipers have it built into the caliper.
    Rob M.
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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    Do yourself a huge favor and go for the 89+ rear disc setup with the drum parking brake.

    87-88 rear disc caliper are expensive and rare.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    The rear calipers used on the 87 and 88 CSX are similar to the 89 and later designs, but with a few differences.

    The CSX caliper uses a larger slide pin and different bushing. The bolt holes in the backing plate are larger as well.

    The rubber hose for the caliper is different too. Neither the hose or caliper is available new unless you find an NOS one.

    When I did the rear brakes on my CSX-T I had to change everything over to the 89 and later type so that hte new calipers and hoses would work.
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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    Quote Originally Posted by ajakeski View Post
    The rear calipers used on the 87 and 88 CSX are similar to the 89 and later designs, but with a few differences.

    The CSX caliper uses a larger slide pin and different bushing. The bolt holes in the backing plate are larger as well.

    The rubber hose for the caliper is different too. Neither the hose or caliper is available new unless you find an NOS one.

    When I did the rear brakes on my CSX-T I had to change everything over to the 89 and later type so that hte new calipers and hoses would work.
    Good information, personally when my CSX rear's act up, I have a vented set from a 90 Daytone VNT waiting in the wings. May need to dial back the rear pressure with these babies.
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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    Quote Originally Posted by tryingbe View Post
    Do yourself a huge favor and go for the 89+ rear disc setup with the drum parking brake.

    87-88 rear disc caliper are expensive and rare.
    I can verify that! They are made of unobtainium. Cardone will rebuild yours. You have to ship them to Cardone and they inspect them and let you know if they are can be rebuilt and the price! I'm going through that hell right now. Plus mine has two of the bolts seized and I have to grind them off. Yes I know how to loosen bolts seized by rust but these have defied all efforts.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    I have a set of rear discs for the SLH3 conversion, but off the top of my head I don't remember what vehicle they came off of or what style of ebrake it is. Just thinking Shelby Daytonas and LeBaron GTCs.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    89 Daytona ES rotor drum style.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    I have an 87 Shelby lancer. What rear disc setup does it use? I haven't really looked at it.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    Quote Originally Posted by thedon809 View Post
    I have an 87 Shelby lancer. What rear disc setup does it use? I haven't really looked at it.
    The Shelby Lancer uses the better design like the CSX as ajakeski describes above http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...=1#post1135245
    you can also see in the 87 microfiche http://www.glmwpg.com/ServiceManuals/
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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    So if I have a caliper issue it's best to just get the 89+ calipers/pads/hoses.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    If I'm remembering correctly my reasoning for the e-brake built into the caliper choice was that I was planning on using the front hubs and spindles/knuckles from my charger in the AWD conversion. Should have looked closer at the rear brakes when I pulled them out earlier, I don't even know if I can use them.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    I know that the 89 Daytona Shelby Z and LeBaron GTC has the park brake integral to the rear rotors. Put those on my 88 C/S. Essentially the park brake is a drum brake.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    I'm pretty sure I'm going to need the calipers that have the e-brake built in to them due to the build that I'm doing.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    Quote Originally Posted by EZEILL View Post
    I'm pretty sure I'm going to need the calipers that have the e-brake built in to them due to the build that I'm doing.
    I have these on my DD so I would like to share a pointer. Remove the adjuster cap every six month or so and readjust the auto adjuster just to keep it free. I also coat it and the adjuster cap with antiseize.
    Also use antiseize on the ebrake linkage of the caliper.
    Regular use of the ebrake also keeps things running smooth. Mine are stilling working fine after 3 or 4 winters here in the salt belt.
    RockAuto still sells them, look up 88 Daytona 2.2 Turbo rear brake they are approx $120 each.
    I also had to make a special shield to cover parts at the hub area.
    Regards,
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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    None of the rear calipers are going to bolt up to the front spindles as is...
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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    None of the rear calipers are going to bolt up to the front spindles as is...
    I already expected to need some adapter plates.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Designs

    Quote Originally Posted by chromguy View Post
    I have these on my DD so I would like to share a pointer. Remove the adjuster cap every six month or so and readjust the auto adjuster just to keep it free. I also coat it and the adjuster cap with antiseize.
    Also use antiseize on the ebrake linkage of the caliper.
    Regular use of the ebrake also keeps things running smooth. Mine are stilling working fine after 3 or 4 winters here in the salt belt.
    RockAuto still sells them, look up 88 Daytona 2.2 Turbo rear brake they are approx $120 each.
    I also had to make a special shield to cover parts at the hub area.
    I didn't see them, could you please post a direct link?

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