Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

  1. #1

    L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    Have '85 GLH-T 4 door with front door hinge sag. Seems that the hinge hole on the door, not the body, is worn. Have replaced the hinge roll pins, but didn't fix it. What is the fix for this problem? Thanks, Steve

  2. #2
    Super Moderator Turbo Mopar Staff contraption22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Havertown, PA
    Posts
    9,517

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    Quote Originally Posted by spmppm View Post
    Have '85 GLH-T 4 door with front door hinge sag. Seems that the hinge hole on the door, not the body, is worn. Have replaced the hinge roll pins, but didn't fix it. What is the fix for this problem? Thanks, Steve
    I am not around my Horizon to check, is there a bushing in there? If not, might need to make one to take up the worn space.
    Mike Marra
    1986 Plymouth Horizon GLMF "The Contraption" < entertaining sponsorship offers
    Project Log:
    http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?69708-The-Contraption-2013-14&highlight=

  3. #3
    Supporting Member II Turbo Mopar Contributor
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Sylmar, CA
    Posts
    2,584

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    Tighten the ID?
    John Laing

    "The sole condition which is required in order to succeed in centralizing the supreme power in a democratic community, is to love equality, or to get men to believe you love it. Thus the science of despotism, which was once so complex is simplified, and reduced . . . . to a single principle."
    -- Alexis de Tocqueville

    "One of the methods used by statists to destroy capitalism consists in establishing controls that tie a given industry hand and foot, making it unable to solve its problems, then declaring that freedom has failed and stronger controls are necessary."
    --Ayn Rand

    "To evolve, you don't need a Constitution. All you need is a legislature and a ballot box . . . . things will evolve as much as you want. All of these changes can come about democratically; you don't need a Constitution to do that and it's not the function of a Constitution to do that."
    -- Justice Antonin Scalia

  4. #4
    Supporting Member II Turbo Mopar Contributor ajakeski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    SE Wisconsin
    Posts
    2,624

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    No bushings, just a roll pin. There's not really any room for a bushing either. Maybe you could drill and use a larger OD pin.

  5. #5
    Hybrid booster
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Mothers Proving Grounds
    Posts
    254

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    I know the hinges are welded to the doors and A pillars. That makes it an absolute PITA to even change out the roll pin. A couple thoughts: Get with your local Mopar Dealership parts department and do a parts search for the appropriate hinge for a left or right hinge, which ever one you need. Front and rear on the L-body's will probably interchange but check both door #'s to make sure. He can look up the part # of the correct hinge you're looking for and then do the national search. One might be out there collecting dust and he can give you the part# and the name and phone# of the dealer that has it. Stranger things have happened? that parts guy can also give you both Dealer Net and Full Retail of that hinge so you have some wiggle room with the parts manager that you call to try and get it knocked down a bit? Another thought. Theirs still a ton of the Omni's and Horizon's out there in Bone Yards. Type into your search window ...www.car-part.com and don't forget the "-" or the "." or you'll be on the wrong site. Then scroll down 'til you find the site as I'm sending it to you with 140 million parts. Then fill in the blanks and do a NATIONAL search.(If the rear door #s are the same you know that those hinges are going to be in better condition) Worst case scenario iz you buy the whole door and have the yard "fire wrench" the hinge out of the door AND the A-pillar and have them ship it to you. Then gently remove the old hinge from your door and A-pillar and put new roll pin in your new hinge before you weld your new hinge in. A PITA? Sure but your options are pretty limited and ask yourself if you can stay happy where you and your door are now? G.L. with it, Jer
    Last edited by bigbarneycars; 05-23-2017 at 03:26 PM.

  6. #6
    Garrett booster
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Southeast VA
    Posts
    138

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    The FSM list a procedure to adjust the door for L bodies, but it involves a special tool to bend the door hinges to correct door sag.

  7. #7
    Supporting Member II Turbo Mopar Contributor
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Sylmar, CA
    Posts
    2,584

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    Pull the pin, use a hammer/punch to tighten the ID while your helper "bucks" it with a heavy piece of steel. The trick is to find the right shape and weight of steel for the bucking. It must outweigh your hammer/punch by a lot. Take care not to tighten it too much.
    John Laing

    "The sole condition which is required in order to succeed in centralizing the supreme power in a democratic community, is to love equality, or to get men to believe you love it. Thus the science of despotism, which was once so complex is simplified, and reduced . . . . to a single principle."
    -- Alexis de Tocqueville

    "One of the methods used by statists to destroy capitalism consists in establishing controls that tie a given industry hand and foot, making it unable to solve its problems, then declaring that freedom has failed and stronger controls are necessary."
    --Ayn Rand

    "To evolve, you don't need a Constitution. All you need is a legislature and a ballot box . . . . things will evolve as much as you want. All of these changes can come about democratically; you don't need a Constitution to do that and it's not the function of a Constitution to do that."
    -- Justice Antonin Scalia

  8. #8
    Super Moderator Turbo Mopar Staff 135sohc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    SoMd
    Posts
    6,178

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    Quote Originally Posted by bamman View Post
    The FSM list a procedure to adjust the door for L bodies, but it involves a special tool to bend the door hinges to correct door sag.
    This ?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/MILLER-TOOL-...AAAOSwmLlYBWNb
    1994 Shadow Sedan. 2.2 N/A, A568 400,000 miles. "the science experiment"
    1987 Shelby CSX #418. Long term rebuild and restore ?

  9. #9
    Supporting Member II Turbo Mopar Contributor
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Sylmar, CA
    Posts
    2,584

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    Yeah, I imagine that the doors alignment can be changed if the hinge/body joint is bent so that that misalignment tightens the pin/hinge clearances and it also moves the location of the door within the door frame.
    John Laing

    "The sole condition which is required in order to succeed in centralizing the supreme power in a democratic community, is to love equality, or to get men to believe you love it. Thus the science of despotism, which was once so complex is simplified, and reduced . . . . to a single principle."
    -- Alexis de Tocqueville

    "One of the methods used by statists to destroy capitalism consists in establishing controls that tie a given industry hand and foot, making it unable to solve its problems, then declaring that freedom has failed and stronger controls are necessary."
    --Ayn Rand

    "To evolve, you don't need a Constitution. All you need is a legislature and a ballot box . . . . things will evolve as much as you want. All of these changes can come about democratically; you don't need a Constitution to do that and it's not the function of a Constitution to do that."
    -- Justice Antonin Scalia

  10. #10
    Garrett booster
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Southeast VA
    Posts
    138

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    Quote Originally Posted by 135sohc View Post
    That should be it. I know in 1983 Chrysler tweaked the L body a bit. The fact that it is for 82 and prior models is a little concerning for newer models. One would have to consult an 1983 or later FSM for the correct tool part number.

  11. #11
    turbo addict
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Toronto Canada
    Posts
    1,772

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    I know there were two different sets of pins for the L body doors , early vs late and I don't think they interchange

  12. #12
    Supporting Member Turbo Mopar Contributor GLHS60's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Sherwood Park Alberta, Canada
    Posts
    1,640

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    This is the method I use to deal with door sag when there are no other options.

    Works great but experimenting on a junk car to get the feel is always a good idea!!

    As in the video, to raise the rear of the door upward, install "tool" in lower hinge

    Thanks
    Randy
    https://youtu.be/SdXmQlZ9yfY


    There is no logical reason to call an Engine a motor.

    Randy Hicks
    86 GLHS60
    86 GLHS 373 : SOLD, but never forgotten
    89 Turbo Minivan
    83 Turbo Rampage : SOLD
    Edmonton,Alberta,Canada

  13. #13

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    Reply to: contraption22, johnl, ajakeski, bigbarneucars, bamman, 135sohc, Dr Johny Dodge, GLHS60

    Guys,

    Thanks for your ideas on fixing my problem - some great suggestions to try.

    Steve Menzner
    Iowa

  14. #14
    Hybrid booster
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Wastelands of NJ
    Posts
    729

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    Quote Originally Posted by GLHS60 View Post
    This is the method I use to deal with door sag when there are no other options.

    Works great but experimenting on a junk car to get the feel is always a good idea!!

    As in the video, to raise the rear of the door upward, install "tool" in lower hinge

    Thanks
    Randy
    https://youtu.be/SdXmQlZ9yfY
    This is a pretty slick and easy procedure.

  15. #15
    turbo addict
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    york pa
    Posts
    1,813

    Re: L body 4 door - worn door hinges - how to fix?

    Quote Originally Posted by ajakeski View Post
    No bushings, just a roll pin. There's not really any room for a bushing either. Maybe you could drill and use a larger OD pin.
    Agreed

Similar Threads

  1. Interior 4-door L-body Front Door Entry Trim Plates (Both)
    By Turbo SOB in forum Parts For Sale
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 02-21-2018, 06:24 PM
  2. 2 door l body rear seats in a 4 door omni
    By going4speed in forum Interior, Exterior and Chassis Modifications
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-25-2015, 07:02 PM
  3. Interior used but mint 4 door l body door seals
    By onerippinturbo2 in forum Parts For Sale
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 04-17-2011, 09:30 AM
  4. Interior used but good gray 4 door l body door seals
    By onerippinturbo2 in forum Parts For Sale
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 04-04-2011, 04:00 PM
  5. General Door Hinges
    By badandy in forum Parts Wanted
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 05-03-2009, 04:13 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •