Have '85 GLH-T 4 door with front door hinge sag. Seems that the hinge hole on the door, not the body, is worn. Have replaced the hinge roll pins, but didn't fix it. What is the fix for this problem? Thanks, Steve
Have '85 GLH-T 4 door with front door hinge sag. Seems that the hinge hole on the door, not the body, is worn. Have replaced the hinge roll pins, but didn't fix it. What is the fix for this problem? Thanks, Steve
Mike Marra
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Tighten the ID?
John Laing
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No bushings, just a roll pin. There's not really any room for a bushing either. Maybe you could drill and use a larger OD pin.
I know the hinges are welded to the doors and A pillars. That makes it an absolute PITA to even change out the roll pin. A couple thoughts: Get with your local Mopar Dealership parts department and do a parts search for the appropriate hinge for a left or right hinge, which ever one you need. Front and rear on the L-body's will probably interchange but check both door #'s to make sure. He can look up the part # of the correct hinge you're looking for and then do the national search. One might be out there collecting dust and he can give you the part# and the name and phone# of the dealer that has it. Stranger things have happened? that parts guy can also give you both Dealer Net and Full Retail of that hinge so you have some wiggle room with the parts manager that you call to try and get it knocked down a bit? Another thought. Theirs still a ton of the Omni's and Horizon's out there in Bone Yards. Type into your search window ...www.car-part.com and don't forget the "-" or the "." or you'll be on the wrong site. Then scroll down 'til you find the site as I'm sending it to you with 140 million parts. Then fill in the blanks and do a NATIONAL search.(If the rear door #s are the same you know that those hinges are going to be in better condition) Worst case scenario iz you buy the whole door and have the yard "fire wrench" the hinge out of the door AND the A-pillar and have them ship it to you. Then gently remove the old hinge from your door and A-pillar and put new roll pin in your new hinge before you weld your new hinge in. A PITA? Sure but your options are pretty limited and ask yourself if you can stay happy where you and your door are now? G.L. with it, Jer
Last edited by bigbarneycars; 05-23-2017 at 03:26 PM.
The FSM list a procedure to adjust the door for L bodies, but it involves a special tool to bend the door hinges to correct door sag.
Pull the pin, use a hammer/punch to tighten the ID while your helper "bucks" it with a heavy piece of steel. The trick is to find the right shape and weight of steel for the bucking. It must outweigh your hammer/punch by a lot. Take care not to tighten it too much.
John Laing
"The sole condition which is required in order to succeed in centralizing the supreme power in a democratic community, is to love equality, or to get men to believe you love it. Thus the science of despotism, which was once so complex is simplified, and reduced . . . . to a single principle."
-- Alexis de Tocqueville
"One of the methods used by statists to destroy capitalism consists in establishing controls that tie a given industry hand and foot, making it unable to solve its problems, then declaring that freedom has failed and stronger controls are necessary."
--Ayn Rand
"To evolve, you don't need a Constitution. All you need is a legislature and a ballot box . . . . things will evolve as much as you want. All of these changes can come about democratically; you don't need a Constitution to do that and it's not the function of a Constitution to do that."
-- Justice Antonin Scalia
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Yeah, I imagine that the doors alignment can be changed if the hinge/body joint is bent so that that misalignment tightens the pin/hinge clearances and it also moves the location of the door within the door frame.
John Laing
"The sole condition which is required in order to succeed in centralizing the supreme power in a democratic community, is to love equality, or to get men to believe you love it. Thus the science of despotism, which was once so complex is simplified, and reduced . . . . to a single principle."
-- Alexis de Tocqueville
"One of the methods used by statists to destroy capitalism consists in establishing controls that tie a given industry hand and foot, making it unable to solve its problems, then declaring that freedom has failed and stronger controls are necessary."
--Ayn Rand
"To evolve, you don't need a Constitution. All you need is a legislature and a ballot box . . . . things will evolve as much as you want. All of these changes can come about democratically; you don't need a Constitution to do that and it's not the function of a Constitution to do that."
-- Justice Antonin Scalia
I know there were two different sets of pins for the L body doors , early vs late and I don't think they interchange
This is the method I use to deal with door sag when there are no other options.
Works great but experimenting on a junk car to get the feel is always a good idea!!
As in the video, to raise the rear of the door upward, install "tool" in lower hinge
Thanks
Randy
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Guys,
Thanks for your ideas on fixing my problem - some great suggestions to try.
Steve Menzner
Iowa