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    Fuel cell in P body

    Anyone have pics of how they mounted a fuel cell in their Shadow or Sundance? Have some ideas for mine but would like to see what others have done before the cutting wheel comes out.

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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    Have you looked back at the sump DJ glued to his tank? I'll probably go a similar route if I have to do something with the gas tank.

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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    I thought about a sump. Even mocked one up in the bottom of my tank, but was concerned about how low it sat. I'll look through DJ 's build thread again to see exactly what he did.

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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    I thought about a sump. Even mocked one up in the bottom of my tank, but was concerned about how low it sat. I'll look through DJ 's build thread again to see exactly what he did.
    With what he told me about the properties of the product he used, I think it's safe to say that it has opened possibilities heretofore unimaginable. With your fab skills (heck- maybe even mine) you could make something to direct the gas and glue it up while not being super low.

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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    In for seeing what you come up with if you do a sump.
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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    Question, why are you going to a fuel cell?

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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    Considering a cell for a few reasons: weight, ability to easily drain fuel to switch between pump and race gas, simplicity (vs. a two pump system or a surge tank system) and more options for pumps. Current intank pump options are limited for high flow, high pressure set ups capable of delivering the fuel volume I am going to need at full boogie. I'm already at a calculated 380-390 whp at 18 psi on pump gas with conservative timing curve. I have full intention of pushing this thing much, much harder both with boost and timing with race fuel.

    Currently have an aeromotive 340, which likely will supply the fuel that I need, but has it's drawbacks given there is a prime hole in the body that is ideally set up for a car that has the pump positioned vertically. The way our stock carriers angle the pump, it leaves the pump prone to pressure drop/prime issues on launch at anything below 1/2 tank, which is a pain in the --- if I'm trying to run race gas.

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    Subscribed so Pat can figure this out and I can copy it.
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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    Well pumps seem to have moved well beyond 340lph if needed, and I would rather run a series pump anyways. Heck, everybody runs twin pumps in the tank before they get to the series pumps.

    I am using the stock straps bolted through the replacement flat floor and then to the crossmember. My cell is annoying. Foam accomplishes nothing. Run the 12 gallon low (1/4" and you suck air on the brakes). No trap doors at this point but seems like polysulfied sealant that has been around for generations can take care of anything you want in the fuel cell.

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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    My Sundance just has the cube bolted in the trunk and I think the pump (still just a 255) horizontally below the trunk. There is a nice AL panel in place of the back seats. I could get a picture next time I'm in NJ but you'll probably be done by then with how fast you do everything.
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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    Quote Originally Posted by mcsvt View Post
    My Sundance just has the cube bolted in the trunk and I think the pump (still just a 255) horizontally below the trunk. There is a nice AL panel in place of the back seats. I could get a picture next time I'm in NJ but you'll probably be done by then with how fast you do everything.
    Gary, is it running 11's yet?

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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan H View Post
    Gary, is it running 11's yet?
    Nearly 11 years, yup!
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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    I have a plate that spans the entire trunk area and the tank is bolted to that with a 1/4" air gap. Can get pics tomorrow if you want to see.

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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow88 View Post
    I have a plate that spans the entire trunk area and the tank is bolted to that with a 1/4" air gap. Can get pics tomorrow if you want to see.
    Pics would be great. Thanks!

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    Pat, did you every do this yet???

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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    No, I haven't. Debating a cell or a surge tank.

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    Re: Fuel cell in P body

    Car is still in the shop, but this is what I did:




    Made a cover for the spare tire well, and a 3" raised box centered in that. Cut out well, welded on my cover/box and boom. Not a small cell, I believe it's 15 or 16 gallon.

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