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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    What kind of wastegate issues are you having?
    Might turn into a long story here, but basically my TU GT3076 uses the chrysler style .63 A/R turbine housing and ATP ultimate swingvalve. The TU wastgate mount is a Z bracket so a straight shaft wastegate actuator is used (currently the new garrett purchased with the turbo). I had a min boost of 8-9 psi.
    Now that I'm bumping the boost up, i find i can't hold more than about 22-23 psi with the enlarged swingvalve port & puck (currently 38mm puck with a 34.5mm port).
    I purchased a Kinugawa, with 2 different springs, and had some different arms and its own flat bracket. To use the included bracket, i would have to use the bent arm. And in trying to install i found that arm might be too long. So i ended up reinstalling the garrett one.

    It would be easier to sort out if the turbo was off the car, but i don't have to time to do that before Cecil. So i'm hoping tightening up on the garrett arm will improve this some.

    I think at some point i need to try and get some data on exhaust pressure pre-turbo.
    Wayne H.

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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    Might turn into a long story here, but basically my TU GT3076 uses the chrysler style .63 A/R turbine housing and ATP ultimate swingvalve. The TU wastgate mount is a Z bracket so a straight shaft wastegate actuator is used (currently the new garrett purchased with the turbo). I had a min boost of 8-9 psi.
    Now that I'm bumping the boost up, i find i can't hold more than about 22-23 psi with the enlarged swingvalve port & puck (currently 38mm puck with a 34.5mm port).
    I purchased a Kinugawa, with 2 different springs, and had some different arms and its own flat bracket. To use the included bracket, i would have to use the bent arm. And in trying to install i found that arm might be too long. So i ended up reinstalling the garrett one.

    It would be easier to sort out if the turbo was off the car, but i don't have to time to do that before Cecil. So i'm hoping tightening up on the garrett arm will improve this some.

    I think at some point i need to try and get some data on exhaust pressure pre-turbo.
    Is that even with the boost reference to the wastegate can unplugged?
    Mike Marra
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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    Is that even with the boost reference to the wastegate can unplugged?
    I have been afraid to try that, since i didn't want to go over 30psi yet.
    I do have a 4 bar map but currently i'm using the 3 bar right now.
    Wayne H.

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    '05 PT GT 2.4T HO autostick (RIP)
    '89 Plymouth Acclaim 2.5L turbo auto, "Slugmobile" yes, THE Slugmobile!
    '89 Dodge Caravan SE 2.5L turbo auto, "Mean Mini" yes, Gus' Mean Mini! (Current best 11.699 @ 114.43 mph! - Oct 15th, 2022 Cecil County Dragway, MD)
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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    I have been afraid to try that, since i didn't want to go over 30psi yet.
    I do have a 4 bar map but currently i'm using the 3 bar right now.
    I hear you there. My system has a 4 bar, but I don't plan on running more than wastegate spring pressure next week, which should be about 10psi give or take.
    Mike Marra
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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    I hear you there. My system has a 4 bar, but I don't plan on running more than wastegate spring pressure next week, which should be about 10psi give or take.
    One thing i can do, which i hope to test on Sunday, is changing the boost reference back to manifold pressure, rather than pre TB pressure, to see if this increases my boost a couple pounds.
    Also, i may just take the plunge on that Synapse bov, if i don't find any clamps that aren't tight.

    I should try and test my 4bar cal also, incase i need to use the secret weapon...
    Wayne H.

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    '89 Plymouth Acclaim 2.5L turbo auto, "Slugmobile" yes, THE Slugmobile!
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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Made my reservation today for the Comfort Inn. The track toys block was all used up, but they extended me the same rate. Will only stay friday night, and likely hit the road after racing. Maybe have a quick bite at the hospitality night, not sure if others of us are staying are staying around for that.
    Wayne H.

    '91 Dodge Spirit ES 2.5L turbo 5spd
    '05 PT GT 2.4T HO autostick (RIP)
    '89 Plymouth Acclaim 2.5L turbo auto, "Slugmobile" yes, THE Slugmobile!
    '89 Dodge Caravan SE 2.5L turbo auto, "Mean Mini" yes, Gus' Mean Mini! (Current best 11.699 @ 114.43 mph! - Oct 15th, 2022 Cecil County Dragway, MD)
    MeanMini dragracing videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...URZLB1RxGYF6vw
    and other cars, trucks and motorcycles
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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Just a reminder that prepayment via paypal ends Wednesday Nov. 9th at Midnight. $55 to tracktoysracing.com see you there!

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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Looks like it's going to be chilly, high of 47

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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Sounds like the perfect recipe to add a few horsies...
    Wayne H.

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    '89 Plymouth Acclaim 2.5L turbo auto, "Slugmobile" yes, THE Slugmobile!
    '89 Dodge Caravan SE 2.5L turbo auto, "Mean Mini" yes, Gus' Mean Mini! (Current best 11.699 @ 114.43 mph! - Oct 15th, 2022 Cecil County Dragway, MD)
    MeanMini dragracing videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...URZLB1RxGYF6vw
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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan H View Post
    Looks like it's going to be fast, high of 47

    Fixed it.

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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Fixed it.
    Nice!

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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan H View Post
    Looks like it's going to be chilly, high of 47
    I dunno why we do it to ourselves. Every. Year.
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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Is everyone planning on meeting for breakfast Saturday?
    Wayne H.

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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    Is everyone planning on meeting for breakfast Saturday?
    Let me know where if so, I'm thinking about bombing down in the Challenger just to watch the fun.

    Gary


    Working on clearing the decks.

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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    Is everyone planning on meeting for breakfast Saturday?
    Quote Originally Posted by mopar-tech View Post
    Let me know where if so, I'm thinking about bombing down in the Challenger just to watch the fun.

    Gary
    A few of us are planning to meet at the Denny's on 272 at 7 am. Looking forward to seeing you guys.

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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Save Dan and I a place!
    Wayne H.

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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Loaded up everything but clothes and the cooler.
    I guess I'm anxious!

    Only one problem, Slugmobile is jealous!
    Wayne H.

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    MeanMini dragracing videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...URZLB1RxGYF6vw
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    Wayne H.

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    '89 Dodge Caravan SE 2.5L turbo auto, "Mean Mini" yes, Gus' Mean Mini! (Current best 11.699 @ 114.43 mph! - Oct 15th, 2022 Cecil County Dragway, MD)
    MeanMini dragracing videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...URZLB1RxGYF6vw
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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    I'm packing up tonight. 6 years since I raced this car so I don't have a dedicated track tool box to just throw in the truck. Hopefully I will only need the laptop and a spark plug socket.
    Mike Marra
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    Re: 2016 Turbo-Mopar Invasion Day at Cecil County Dragway (15th Annual ABM Nats)

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    I'm packing up tonight. 6 years since I raced this car so I don't have a dedicated track tool box to just throw in the truck. Hopefully I will only need the laptop and a spark plug socket.
    That's the spirit!




    But, you may want a few metric wrenches and sockets also...

    I may have you covered if you need tools. Save me a spot if you get to the track before me!
    Wayne H.

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    '89 Dodge Caravan SE 2.5L turbo auto, "Mean Mini" yes, Gus' Mean Mini! (Current best 11.699 @ 114.43 mph! - Oct 15th, 2022 Cecil County Dragway, MD)
    MeanMini dragracing videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...URZLB1RxGYF6vw
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