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    Injector latency info for TFS-89095

    I've looked and looked and even tried contacting Trick Flow email, but have not found the info.
    With my 3bar cal, the 95#/hr seems to be fine, but when rescaled for 4bar map, some things are acting weird, with no other cal changes but the map scaling.
    Does anyone have the latency info for these injectors? Would prefer to have my table set correctly to eliminate that potential.
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    Re: Injector latency info for TFS-89095

    Wayne...I have it. Can I post a .pdf on here? Send me your email addy and I'll email you the whole sheet.

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    Re: Injector latency info for TFS-89095

    Attached as pics for anyone else that wants it.
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    Re: Injector latency info for TFS-89095

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Wayne...I have it. Can I post a .pdf on here? Send me your email addy and I'll email you the whole sheet.
    Thanks Pat!
    Is it widely accepted that these accel injectors are identical to the trick flow? They both have the same 1009.0cc/min spec even though one says 95 and other 96#/hr.
    They do look so. I will try those values and see what happens.
    Wayne H.

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    Re: Injector latency info for TFS-89095

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    Thanks Pat!
    Is it widely accepted that these accel injectors are identical to the trick flow? They both have the same 1009.0cc/min spec even though one says 95 and other 96#/hr.
    They do look so. I will try those values and see what happens.
    This is what was sent to me directly from Trick Flow, with specific reference to the Trick Flow part number. PM me your email addy and I'll send the whole thing.

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    Re: Injector latency info for TFS-89095

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    This is what was sent to me directly from Trick Flow, with specific reference to the Trick Flow part number. PM me your email addy and I'll send the whole thing.
    Dang Pat, i thought we were friends!
    I still have your email in MY contact list...
    Wayne H.

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    Re: Injector latency info for TFS-89095

    Wow, here is the difference in table now.
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    I tried to get the values as close as i could.
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    This is going to richen things up a bit, isn't it?
    Last edited by wheming; 06-21-2016 at 02:47 PM.
    Wayne H.

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    Re: Injector latency info for TFS-89095

    Ugh.
    It did richen things up quite a bit. I'll have to see if i can sort it out. Figures, i've had this messed up the entire time, so a year's worth of tweaking is down the toilet.
    Went back to my old cal which was pretty decent.
    I tried changing my injector scaling to adjust, but it didn't help.
    My decent working cal is set in mptune for 90#/hr, but i actually have my fuel pressure set to 43.

    No more time to mess with this today. Have to get ready for nightshift, and i already have a splitting headache.
    Wayne H.

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    Re: Injector latency info for TFS-89095

    Didn't you have pumping efficiency needs at over 100%? I wonder if this was the cause.

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    Re: Injector latency info for TFS-89095

    Yes. I do have a large rpm range that is maxed out in the peftbl.
    I guess i will go back to the drawing board with a cal setup and test out.
    It will be nice to have it sorted out so i'm not so worried about it as i try to get Mini moved up the boost output...
    I should have had this missing link some time ago, but could never find this info.
    Wayne H.

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