CSR Electric Water Pump BUY NOW!?

[Reeves]

I've been considering this for a LOOONG time, but just never could fork over the money:
http://race-mart.storesecured.com/it...922-detail.htm

Well, BADANDY ordered one and was informed that he has to wait on a batch to be made.

Anyone else been considering one so we can get a batch made?

How about anyone that's using them....how's the experience been?

I usually just run my alt belt a little loose on the late styles to let the pump slip at wot!

[8valves]

I always wanted one too, but they are costly.

[turbovanman²]

I could have sworn Meziere or someone else made them too,

What are the benefits to running one besides being able to cool the engine in the pits?

Do they free up THAT much HP?

[Captain Chaos]

How many is their batch requirement?

[mcsvt]

Tempting. This a pretty much bolt up?

Anyway to make an Alt. only crank pulley? Have a non-A/C one already.

[BadAssPerformance]

Since I'm now apparently into doing group buys.... want me to set one up? I cant believe I just typed that

[LynX853]

i have always wanted one too... group buy does sound good

[BF/STOCKER SPIRIT]

Sounds very interesting!

[contraption22]

Tempting. This a pretty much bolt up?

Anyway to make an Alt. only crank pulley? Have a non-A/C one already.

The alt and water pump drive off the same belt, so you should only need a shorter alt belt.

[Reeves]

You don't even need a shorter belt. AFAIK this is for the later style pumps, which if you are already running a 89 up commonblock pump, you just tighten the alt a little more.

I know that Lugert and bro have had a couple for a long time....don't know if either have tried them out.

I also know that the dude with the really bad*ss ground up daytona build (sorry, forgot the name and link) has one and is using it on the street. I don't think the car saw a whole lot of road time though.

My guess is it would free up 10 or so horsies. (disclaimer: I am guessing here.....please don't fill this thread with sh*t about how much a Mopar stock water pump vs. a Autozone reman pump vs. a Advance Auto pump that you spray WD40 in the weephole vs. a waterpump built by this guy that knows his waterpumps vs. a waterpump with ceramic bearings vs. a waterpump with sharpened and balanced vanes, etc. thread)

Now granted, this pump is going to put more strain on the alternator...that's nature, but I'm thinking it *may* flow better or as good as a stocker, and it's less belt drag.

What I've been wanting to do for a long time, and just never got around to trying was killing the alternator field wires at WOT. You would be running on strictly battery for 15 seconds or so? With an electric water pump, you would then have no belt drag, except for turning over the free wheeling alternator. I was wanting to get a Jacobs voltage stabilizer, until they discontinued the old model and came out with the like $500 model....ouch.... So I may still try it with with just a healthy battery. Cal guys....can you add this to the code?

[BadAssPerformance]

....please don't fill this thread with sh*t about how much a Mopar stock water pump vs. a Autozone reman pump vs. a Advance Auto pump that you spray WD40 in the weephole vs. a waterpump built by this guy that knows his waterpumps vs. a waterpump with ceramic bearings vs. a waterpump with sharpened and balanced vanes, etc. thread)

LOL!

What I've been wanting to do for a long time, and just never got around to trying was killing the alternator field wires at WOT. You would be running on strictly battery for 15 seconds or so? With an electric water pump, you would then have no belt drag, except for turning over the free wheeling alternator. I was wanting to get a Jacobs voltage stabilizer, until they discontinued the old model and came out with the like $500 model....ouch.... So I may still try it with with just a healthy battery. Cal guys....can you add this to the code?

Not good on a EFI turbo car.... I threw an alternator belt off the 2.4L last year and it chuuuuuuuggged, but the MSD DIS 2 Plus and Aeromotove A-1000 guzzle voltage.

[mcsvt]

Don't forget the ported water pump comparison...

Thanks Mike sometimes I'm a bit forgetful.

[Reeves]

Not good on a EFI turbo car.... I threw an alternator belt off the 2.4L last year and it chuuuuuuuggged, but the MSD DIS 2 Plus and Aeromotove A-1000 guzzle voltage.

Actually, they chug the current. When the current is being chugged, the voltage drops.

That's why I wanted the accuvolt. The cheaper one. There still is some floating around on Ebay. Even when the battery starts dropping the volts, it will continue to draw more current on the input side to keep voltage and current demands correct on the output side.

I've got my ignition, fuel pump, and alky injection on the same 30 amp breaker. Last year for the first time I tripped that breaker a few times while headed to the road course at SDAC. I upped it to a 35 or 40...can't remember. So far so good.

Sorry you threw the belt, but I'm glad you know how the car reacted. Was this a strong battery?

I lost my alternator in my Shelby Z years ago and made it over an hour drive on just the battery. Granted though, stock fuel pump and ignition, etc. Big azz stereo, but I don't think I was using it.

Don't forget the ported water pump comparison...

Thanks Mike sometimes I'm a bit forgetful.

Ah d*mn..... Didn't even think to include a ported vs. a stock, vs. a custom non bolt on.

Where does your waterpump?

[GLHNSLHT2]

I'd like to have 1 or 2 of those electric pumps but times are tight at work and there's no way I can fork out the cash for them. I'm just gonna have to live with my ported and 3 fins clipped UDP driven waterpump.

[Anonymous_User]

I was looking at them the other day on the CSR website and it stated for pre 89 engines. ???

Now, I have run a pre CB pump and housing on a CB and it works fine as long as the accessories are correct.

What are these, like $350-ish?? What about a remote mount universal electric pump?

[turbovanman²]

My guess is it would free up 10 or so horsies. (disclaimer: I am guessing here.....please don't fill this thread with sh*t about how much a Mopar stock water pump vs. a Autozone reman pump vs. a Advance Auto pump that you spray WD40 in the weephole vs. a waterpump built by this guy that knows his waterpumps vs. a waterpump with ceramic bearings vs. a waterpump with sharpened and balanced vanes, etc. thread)

Holy sh*t, I fell off my chair and pissed myself,

I was looking at them the other day on the CSR website and it stated for pre 89 engines. ???

Now, I have run a pre CB pump and housing on a CB and it works fine as long as the accessories are correct.

What are these, like $350-ish?? What about a remote mount universal electric pump?

That shouldn't matter, it will bolt up and with no belt, not an issue.

I would love one but can't justify the money, plus I am broke and if I did have the money, I would rather get a nice tubular header,

[BadAssPerformance]

Actually, they chug the current. When the current is being chugged, the voltage drops.

Doh! current ... I'm not an electrical guy

[contraption22]

Yeah I would also be concerned about clicking off the alternator under WOT. With the very high fuel pressure we use under boost, combined with alky pumps and ignition boxes, I don't think it's such a good idea. I saw a chart once that showed how an electric fuel pump can loose volume at high pressures as voltage drops. It's pretty scary.

I do like the electric water pump idea for the idea of switching on the pump and cooling fan between rounds to quickly cool down the cooling system without the engine running Of course, I'd like to have a battery charger on the car while doing that.

[Anonymous_User]

I've used the Moroso Electric Drive Kits on higher compression V8's on the road without problems. I would imagine that one could be adapted to turn our water pumps without too much work.

Order a Moroso pulley, 97220, and see if it can be adapted to our water pump. Building a bracket for the motor should be simple. Then it's just a question of if you can keep the alt belt away from the new pump pulley.


On my carb V8 car, I see a drop in fuel pressure without the alt. belt and this is simply a Holley Blue pump in the back and a reg up front set at 10 psi. I'd imagine even worse things on one of our cars.

["Top Fuel" Bender]

What I've been wanting to do for a long time, and just never got around to trying was killing the alternator field wires at WOT. You would be running on strictly battery for 15 seconds or so?

15 seconds? is that your goal for this year with the new setup
My father is running a CSR pump on his 509 Reher Morrison BBC seems pretty nice
I have an inline Deadenbear on my omni and love it
You pull into the pits , shut the car off 45seconds later with the pump and fan running ,temps are way back down
I do remember this being brought up back in the old TD days and some had the CSR version and liked it also

btw, didn't the GLHS stage II cals have an alt WOT field kill?
I remember my GLHS' headlights flickering when going WOT and was told it was the volt drop because of the regulator being turned off
I'm not a computer guy but I'm sure they could use the a/c wot cutout circuit for the a similar deal with the alt.