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    rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    Can someone please tell me how to get replacement parts for the rear disc brakes
    and the emergency brake shoes for this car. Auto stores show that a 1987 Dodge Lancer has drum brakes
    in the rear.

    Will the 1990 LeBaron GTC or Daytona Shelby parts work as they have the small emergency brake
    shoes installed in the disc rotor.

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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    89 Daytona Shelby will have the proper rotor, pad and shoe situation.


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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    Quote Originally Posted by DOHCRT View Post
    89 Daytona Shelby will have the proper rotor, pad and shoe situation.
    Thank You!

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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    Quote Originally Posted by DOHCRT View Post
    89 Daytona Shelby will have the proper rotor, pad and shoe situation.
    Not 100% true.

    89 Daytona or Lebaron with 14" wheels and solid rotor is the interchange, not the vented '89 Shelby Daytona with 16" wheels.

    PADS: WAGNER Part # MX415

    ROTOR: WAGNER Part # BD61948

    The caliper is unique and I think the 88 Shadow will interchange but not 100% sure. I have to order a set and try them out.


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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    Thanks Gary
    Quote Originally Posted by mopar-tech View Post
    Not 100% true.

    89 Daytona or Lebaron with 14" wheels and solid rotor is the interchange, not the vented '89 Shelby Daytona with 16" wheels.

    PADS: WAGNER Part # MX415

    ROTOR: WAGNER Part # BD61948

    The caliper is unique and I think the 88 Shadow will interchange but not 100% sure. I have to order a set and try them out.

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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    Here are the part numbers you can use to reference parts:

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    Number		Description		Other Applications			Interchange
    4467450		Rotor			87 Shelby Lancer, 88-89 Shelby CSX
    4467439		Brake Pads 		87 Shelby Lancer, 88-89 Shelby CSX 	MX415
    4467429		Parking brake shoes
    4467430		Right Caliper
    4467431		Left Caliper
    Of particular note was the brake pads. I could simply plug the part numbers in various sites like Autozone and get a result. The brake pads, however, I had to do a little more searching and found that MX415 number. You can use that number to interchange it.

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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    87-88 rear discs are different from 89-up. 87-88 uses a wedge-type park brake, meaning there's a lever on the caliper that squeezes the pads to the rotor. 89-up use drum brakes inside the rotor.
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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    87-88 rear discs are different from 89-up. 87-88 uses a wedge-type park brake, meaning there's a lever on the caliper that squeezes the pads to the rotor.
    Not the Shelby CSX or Lancer.

    See picture.


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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    This may help clear up some of the confusion: http://www.wagnerbrake.com/find-my-part
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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    The CSX and maybe the Lancer use a specific rubber hose and the bolts for the caliper are bigger than the caliper bolts used in later years. This becomes an issue when you try to interchange calipers.
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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    Tony,

    Your post got me to register for this board, hahahah. I also own a Shelby Lancer, #707, however, it is not yet in my possession. Regardless, I have done a lot of research on the car, and I would like to share with you what I have found with regards to the rear braking system:

    Left Brake Caliper: A1 Cardone 184308 is a direct cross for Mopar 4467431 - listed as '88-'89 Dodge Shadow and Plymouth Sundance
    Right Brake Caliper: A1 Cardone 1843047 is a direct cross for Mopar 4467430 - listed as '88-'89 Dodge Shadow and Plymouth Sundance

    The hoses, Mopar 4467404, and 4467405 I have come up empty on.....there is a company called Techna-Fit that specializes in stainless braided brake and clutch lines. They might be worth contacting.

    The rotors, Mopar 4467450, you can use the Wagner BD61948, Raybestos 76002R, or the AC Delco 18A294A.

    The rear pads, the aforementioned Wagner MX415 will work, pulling up an interchange shows a boatload of front wheel drive Chryslers.

    The park brake shoes, I THINK, are Wagner PAB643, or Raybestos 643PG's, however, I can't be quite certain yet. Judging by the sheer number of FWD Chryslers (everything from Shadows to Intrepids) they fit, I would say it's a decent bet, but don't quote me on that.

    I hope this helps everyone!

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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    Thank You Tim and welcome aboard!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zorin View Post
    Tony,

    Your post got me to register for this board, hahahah. I also own a Shelby Lancer, #707, however, it is not yet in my possession. Regardless, I have done a lot of research on the car, and I would like to share with you what I have found with regards to the rear braking system:

    Left Brake Caliper: A1 Cardone 184308 is a direct cross for Mopar 4467431 - listed as '88-'89 Dodge Shadow and Plymouth Sundance
    Right Brake Caliper: A1 Cardone 1843047 is a direct cross for Mopar 4467430 - listed as '88-'89 Dodge Shadow and Plymouth Sundance

    The hoses, Mopar 4467404, and 4467405 I have come up empty on.....there is a company called Techna-Fit that specializes in stainless braided brake and clutch lines. They might be worth contacting.

    The rotors, Mopar 4467450, you can use the Wagner BD61948, Raybestos 76002R, or the AC Delco 18A294A.

    The rear pads, the aforementioned Wagner MX415 will work, pulling up an interchange shows a boatload of front wheel drive Chryslers.

    The park brake shoes, I THINK, are Wagner PAB643, or Raybestos 643PG's, however, I can't be quite certain yet. Judging by the sheer number of FWD Chryslers (everything from Shadows to Intrepids) they fit, I would say it's a decent bet, but don't quote me on that.

    I hope this helps everyone!

    Tim

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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Fields View Post
    Thank You Tim and welcome aboard!
    Did you ever get this situation figured out?. I'm looking to replace the rear brake set-up on my son's 87 Shelby Lancer. Any info. would be great. Thanks.

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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    I'm attempting to find a piston for the Shelby Lancer rear brakes. Ordered one that was 1-2mm larger, so ordered two more. If anyone has the exact part number, I would be appreciative. The seal I purchased was KELSEY-HAYES KC83018/KC-83018. Somehow that fit the caliper, but the piston did not. Ordered the 14" wheel rear disc piston along with another just in case. Will report back later if it fits. Just measured the piston and it's 1 5/16" x 1 3/4" (roughly). The diameter is correct, not sure about the length since it broke on me.

    UPDATE:

    Found this on Napa's site and the measurements sorta work out to what I found to be for mine. 1.334" translates to roughly 34mm, which is the same size as the seal and that converts to standard measurement to 1 5/16". The length I measured may be off since I didn't have the whole piston to measure. This was the same part number I ordered from Rock Auto, so this should be it, hopefully.

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    [SIZE="3"] [B]Jon Trotter[/B][/SIZE] [B]1985[/B] Dodge Shelby Charger, Currently decommissioned [B]1987[/B] Shelby GLHS, #937 [B]1987[/B] Shelby Lancer, #628 [QUOTE=Reeves;587010]I can be ready. Please send pics of wife. _____DodgeZ add comments here______[/QUOTE]

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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    If you sent in your old core ,maybe there is a company that would re-build them.....for a premium cost ?
    Especially true for cars more rare than the Shelby's , with cores that are hard to find.

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    The part number posted above is the correct piece. Test fit and it goes in as intended. Glad I found one. Also, bought the Raybestos one as well. It fits, but it is made of steel so it's very heavy. Not sure if that is a good or bad thing.
    [SIZE="3"] [B]Jon Trotter[/B][/SIZE] [B]1985[/B] Dodge Shelby Charger, Currently decommissioned [B]1987[/B] Shelby GLHS, #937 [B]1987[/B] Shelby Lancer, #628 [QUOTE=Reeves;587010]I can be ready. Please send pics of wife. _____DodgeZ add comments here______[/QUOTE]

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    Re: rear disc brake question for the 1987 Shelby Lancer

    I've seen the plastic pistons get real brittle with age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedon809 View Post
    I've seen the plastic pistons get real brittle with age.
    I thought about that, probably why this one failed. Got hot for some reason and couldn't take the heat. Probably won't use the steel one, but I have an extra in case this happens again.
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