I *think* if the brakes are applied it won't do that. It's been so long I can't remember if I ever did that or had an issue with it. My normal launch rpm was only ~2500 or so.Originally Posted by Vigo
I *think* if the brakes are applied it won't do that. It's been so long I can't remember if I ever did that or had an issue with it. My normal launch rpm was only ~2500 or so.
Picked up the trans for the black car today, gonna try and install it this week, already have it under the car on the jack. Probably pick up ATF+4 and a cooler for it tomorrow.
Something I just thought of, the TCM has it's own diagnostic plug that is different from the engine DRB plug, so we'll need to come up with a TCM flash cable also.
BTW, are we thinking standalone ability or are we dead without the stock ECU? I thought one of the good points of the older TCM is no canbus and therefore it gets its own signals.
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It's not possible for a non-turbo car with a stock converter to ever hit that number. It has been a problem in other communities like 2gnt DSMs that were turboed etc.I *think* if the brakes are applied it won't do that. It's been so long I can't remember if I ever did that or had an issue with it. My normal launch rpm was only ~2500 or so.
Dont push the red button.You hear me?
Should be standalone. It was apparently working with the Haltech that was in the Daytona originally, with just the TPS and I think the tach feed wired in from it.
It's not CAN; the older TCM's use the CCD bus. Which was Chrysler's proprietary bus that pre-dated CAN. They still get many signals over the bus.
So not standalone capable?
Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56
If it worked with that Haltech in the old daytona i dont see why we couldn't do it again. I thought that was the whole attraction of the 89/early tcm?
Dont push the red button.You hear me?
I'll have to see what data exactly it gets from the CCD bus...
Thanks. What's the next page? Looks like it describes what the TCM uses the signals for...
Next 3 pages
Picked up another test mule this week, a '93 Lebaron vert w/ a 3.0/A604 combo. I'm up to 3 A604 equipped vehicles now lol. Gonna buy the flash/log cable this week so I program the flashable SBEC1 in the black Daytona, and hopefully finish the trans install this weekend. Need to swap the TPS on the van I think, then it and the Daytona will be ready to try trans tuning on. Vert just needs head gaskets and it should be ready also.
If the TCM has to be flashed through the TCM diagnostic plug, maybe an adapter can be made to be used with the currently available PCM flash/logging cable?
What year is that diagnostic book from? That may tell a story as to why it is describing the operation that way. Look at the wiring diagram of an early A604 car. The necessary feeds are all there.
The book is dated 1997
That makes sense as to why it says what it does.
Not sure if it will help, but I pulled the complete underhood harness with the TCM, solenoid pack, and SBEC from the '93 Lebaron I mentioned earlier (trans and engine were both bad so I junked it). My thought was that maybe the TCM/PCM harness could be stripped out as a standalone setup that could be powered up on a bench, so you could see what info is transferred back and forth from it with MPScan or a scanner. Might be helpful in figuring out the last bit of code.
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I don't know if it helps, but I now have access to Chrysler TechAuthority, a DRB3, and a StarScan.
Bump
posted below a link to an updated disassembly that works in mptune based off of the 89 tcm shelgame had done earlier. all i did was add an additional table type as well as further break out as much additional code as i could. i'll need to post up a newer version of mptune.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../89tcm_678.zip
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