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    Relentless 2016

    First something old I think that has never been posted... text taken from my "whats new page"



    This is how my week in August of 2000 went....

    Wednesday night found Heather and myself at Englishtown for a wednesday night test 'n tune- it was wall to wall street racers and imports! Time to open a can of whoop ---! The Reliant had a 1/2 hour of running time on the new engine so the first pass was an easy 22 psi of boost (the lowest setting for my new hybrid T3/T4 turbo) I came out of the hole fairly easy not know what to expect- the timing was set retarded 7degrees because of the new fastburn head (I was going to play with the timing a few degrees at a time- retarding it was a pre-caution due to the fast burn heads faster pressure rise) and I didn't know how the turbo was going to spool so I can out of the hole fairly lazy. The car ran 12.0 @ 113 mph with a 1.81 S.T. Everything looked good so the boost was set to 30 psi and I came out of the hole a little more aggressive and the car rapped off a 11.26 at 120.8 with a 1.76 S.T. I was STOKED! and this was with the intercooler hose popping off on the top end beforethe traps!!!!! Man I got 10's in the bag!!! run number three the hose popped off again in the damn burnout box!!!! Run number 4 the car launched ok but the car started breaking up BAD and THEN the intercooler
    hose blew once more! ARG!!!

    Trailing the car back home I was wondering why the car crapped out on the last pass and when I did a check over the next morning I found the reason- Busted number 1 spark plug ceramic (OUCH!) While I was dwelling on this new problem I came to the conclusion that my double core intercooler was NOT flowing enough air and this was causing the hoses to blow off and it had to be replaced- yet how was I going to get one in time for the import race next week at Cecil County? DOUBLE ARG!! While I was cruising the countryside clearing out every Peterbuilt truck dealer of the superdudybadtotheboneneverblowoff hose clamps a solution hit me- I would reinstall a FACTORY intercooler in the stock location and "Y" into the existing plumbing! YIPPEE! LOL! AND IT WORKED!!!



    Well we loaded up the car and Heather and myself headed south to Cecil County friday morning- we were going to hit the track friday night for a test & tune to make sure the car was running perfectly before stomping he crap out of a pack of imports saturday morning... The very first pass the car left HARD and was screaming when at the 1/8 mile the damn car blew off a DIFFERENT hose! damnit! $%^$#^!! It was only pipe I didn't weld a lip onto!! Steve Menegon and myself busted out a pair of vise grips and a file and quickly bent a "lip" onto the offending pipe and reassembled everything in a hurry (I wanted to get back out to the track, Cecil is JAMMING on a friday night)

    Aug. 12, 2000 7:14 P.M.

    Relentless made a 10.98 pass at 126 mph with a 1.82 S.T! Man what a RIDE! The track feels like it's paved with cobblestones at 3/4 track (unlike e-town which is like driving on plate glass) and the car was vibrating so bad I could barely read the gauges!! I kept thinking "1450-1450-1450" as I watched the EGT gauge and tried to keep the car going in a straight line with the rear of the car dancing around! I swear I could hear Steve a'holloring all the way down at the far end of the track! He was hopping up and down like a 5 year at the starting line after the car broke into the 10's! He-he! The crowd went NUTS! I headed back to the pits to give the car a look over (and make sure all the intercooler hoses where still hanging in there) and wheeled back into staging... I dialed in a littttttle more boost and came out of the hole a tad more aggressive and the car clicked off a picture perfect 10.86 @ 127 with a 1.74 S.T. At that point it was time to call it a night, as I was loading the car for the trip to Steves place a gentlemen in a new 300 pulled up, rolled down his window and uttered the words that would
    make the night perfect-

    "Man that is one BAD --- car!" =)

    Amen brother, amen!

    Saturday morning we headed back to the track- Steve was racing his GTC today (New clutch) Mike Marra was there with Contraption, Mike Demoss showed up with his GLHS and there were a few other Shelby Dodges among the imports... Car passed tech no problem (NHRA 10.00 legal thank you very much!) all though the tech inspector asked me what it will run and I told him I was shooting for low 11's today.. He laughed and said are you sure about that? I was here last night!! We both laughed and I explained that I was more interested in test'n tune today then trying to break records- wouldn't you know the damn car made a liar out of me on the first pass by running a 10.92 at 117 mph (a different hose was popped off damnit!) Steve and myself sliced ourselves to death getting the darn hose back on (It's a REAL tight fit and right off the turbo! can you say HOT!!!) For some reason my first pass was not counted as qualification for the FWD quick 8 and I made a second pass- Unfortunately right behind a car with an oil leak that misted the track with oil!! still Relentless was up to the task at hand and ran a 11.2 at 125mph with the slicks spinning well into 2nd gear!! people in the stands were amazed to see a k-car spinning the slicks PAST them in the grandstands out over 150 ft! The time was good enough to give me the number 2 spot on the ladder (Mike Demoss had the number 1 spot by a few hundreds of a second) Well after that we hung out and waited for the Quick 8 to begin, and waited... and waited.... It seems that there wasn't enough cars entered at the track for the sponsors to make the full pay out so they combined the RWD and FWD classes! It figures! There was a low 10 second rotary MG roadster there that day! ahh well anything could happen....

    First round had me paired up against a 10.4 RWD Toyota somethingorother with a big wing in the back- ouch! When they called out on the PA that they were sticking us with the faster RWD cars I installed the bottle in the car (thats correct- all passes this weekend were made without NOS) and felt that I could give him a run for the money. As it was they were running a pro tree and it threw both of us off and as luck would have it it was a double bog launch by BOTH of us and HE had the better reaction time but Relentless recovered first and sprinted like mad to the finish line running 11.5 at 127 to the other racers 12.44 at 132 mph!

    Round two had me a paired against a 11.3 VW rabbit (the event sponsor no less) and we haggled over lane choice and I lost the coin toss- A good thing as it turned out as a VW powered roadster puked it's engine in his lane right in front of him! The odds where in my favor with the faster car and better lane now but I wasn't taking any chances as I left him at the tree with a 7 tenths better reaction time and never looked back with a smoking 10.97 @ 127 mph pass.

    Round three had me pitted against the darn RWD 10.2 MG roadster- I'd need every trick I could think of to beat this guy! A quick look under the hood of the k-car showed another damn hose coming off! Steve and Mike ran off to get me an extra clamp and we worked like mad to get the hose on tighter and stuff the clamp in- I planned on upping the boost a tad and didn't want to loose the hose! Well to make a long story short I managed to tree the guy but his car pulled an AMAZING 1.49 short time and his car ran a 10.2 @ 132 mph to my losing 10.95 @ 128 mph (33 psi). It was the best I could do and then some but was just totally out tractioned and out powered- I tried hitting the bottle in second gear but it made the car misfire and I shut it down at once to prevent any damage. Still second place was good for a nice trophy and $200 bucks!

    Gary


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    Re: Relentless 2016

    First in! I can't wait to see how this progresses.

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    Re: Relentless 2016

    I certainly remember reading the first half of that tale, as my original twin turbo build was going to have a single factory stock I/C for each turbo at that time. After reading the restriction limit you had found I shifted gears and drew up a New plan to run Dual cores after each turbo

    It was Inspiring to say the least, to go to my brothers (I didn't even have internet back then lol) and read up on your latest endeavors, but I believe it was the Way you told the story that Really got me hooked! Like I was Right there while it was happening!

    That was the worst part of that catastrophic failure that sidelined you all these years.................No more Stories!

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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Looking forward to this thread, Gary. One of my favorite experiences was slamming a couple pistons in there in what, 90minutes? In the pits, with hand tools.
    I still wish I could have been there in person the day you landed on paydirt.
    I am one of many who are thrilled to see you back at it!
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    Re: Relentless 2016

    I knew it !! I know I remember seeing a post about something to do with relentless getting back on track a while ago but can't find the post... great news seeing this thread come together definitely will be following this

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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    That was the worst part of that catastrophic failure that sidelined you all these years.................No more Stories!
    Heather and I parting company did far more damage than a failed oil pump gear on the Reliant. I wanted nothing to do with anything automotive for several years and it was only a deliberate attempt on my part to "get back into cars" and get my feet wet with the Duster in 2008 and return to my roots for awhile that has finally lead me to where I'm at now. The Duster was the main project for a bit, there were renovations to the house, the Dart showed up in 2011 and got worked on in 2012 till the garage showed up and that pretty much sucked up the rest of the year aside from picking up the root beer GTX. The blue GTX banged back to life winter 2012/2013 after being parked for a decade and that kept me busy for several months. The old "dodge garage" got a full makeover the fall and winter of 2013. Picked up the '71 Sebring fall of 2013 but that was parked and untouched till I had spare time. Root beer GTX was sold in early 2014 and picked up the Challenger and sold the Neon. Did a roof on the house and shed. Kyle and I went through the '71 early this year during the winter along with some major work to the pickup.

    And the CSX you know as this years project along with the furnace for the house.

    I feel more comfortable digging into projects this year coming up as more things are "settled" around the house.

    If all goes to plan, both the Dart (which has been sitting since 2012) and the Reliant will be worked on more or less the same time. A good deal of the work on the Dart is already done, it just needs assembly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveSkrab View Post
    Looking forward to this thread, Gary. One of my favorite experiences was slamming a couple pistons in there in what, 90minutes? In the pits, with hand tools.
    I still wish I could have been there in person the day you landed on paydirt.
    I am one of many who are thrilled to see you back at it!
    *subscribed*
    We did good, finally found the limit of stock 2.5 pistons and then I swapped over to forged.

    I'll have to see if I have the original picture Dave, its somewhere but with several thousand pics it will take awhile to find. (found them)

    Highest praise I ever got I think was from Super Stock guys the next day telling us WE were hardcore for rebuilding an engine in the pits.
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    Oh boy, here we go. Been waiting for this a long time. Gary, you owe me a couple of hits at the track in Relentless Really glad to see you back here.
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    Good stuff Gary! Glad to see you got bit by the bug again.
    I want to see Relentless, The Contraption, Steve's GTC, Slugmobile, MeanMini, Seth's TIII GLHS, and several others all in the same place someday. Maybe an SDAC, or just at the track, but it needs to happen.
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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Hey Gary can we get 2010 video resolutions yet? 720p would be great. Can't wait to see what happens with the car. Still going to run the FM "header"????

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLHNSLHT2 View Post
    Hey Gary can we get 2010 video resolutions yet? 720p would be great.
    Don't pick on my camera man! Coolpix L100 takes fine pics but the video is not so good.

    I needed the camera to take shots of the work to be done.

    And... the pictures have been sent...

    Still going to run the FM "header"????
    Nope. It was identified as a restriction and I have a bit of stainless that has been waiting to be used.


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    Sub-effing-scribed.
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    So glad to see some godfathers of turbo dodge speed getting back into it! Welcome back Gary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Stramer View Post
    Oh boy, here we go. Been waiting for this a long time. Gary, you owe me a couple of hits at the track in Relentless Really glad to see you back here.
    Good to be back Warren, your car is a jewel of workmanship and inspiration.


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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Best thread ever Gary!!

    I remember when you bought the Reliant at auction and converted it to 5 speed.

    You posted you got the last 5 sp shifter bezel in the country if I remember correctly.

    As Shadow said, your writing is excellent, just like your mechanical skills !!

    Relentless =skill-honesty-integrity-father-role model-innovator-sharing knowledge-fund raiser (Gus) and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLHS60 View Post
    Best thread ever Gary!!

    I remember when you bought the Reliant at auction and converted it to 5 speed.

    You posted you got the last 5 sp shifter bezel in the country if I remember correctly.

    As Shadow said, your writing is excellent, just like your mechanical skills !!

    Relentless =skill-honesty-integrity-father-role model-innovator-sharing knowledge-fund raiser (Gus) and more.

    Thanks
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    Any info on the 5 speed conversion? Especially the in car stuff? I've done a 600 vert before, but I may do my NYer too. I'd love to make it look stock. I wouldn't do it any other way actually.

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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Reading this and watching the videos is giving me some motivations to fix my hunk of junk. Will be interested to see where relentless goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedon809 View Post
    Will be interested to see where relentless goes.
    I'm calling it now....9's right off the trailer
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