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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Stock T2 rod?

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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo224 View Post
    Stock T2 rod?
    Well prepped with ARP bolts.

    The engine failed because the oil pump gear was shot (started getting knife edged) and caused the spark advance to jump all over. You could really see it in the dyno sheet after.


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    Re: Relentless 2016

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    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

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    Re: Relentless 2016

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    Speaking of Joey- Track picture is Joey and I facing off in Canada for final round of the quick 8, he graciously gave me time to change out a headgasket on the Reliant before final round. I think we got it done in about 45 minutes.
    Good Times!

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    Re: Relentless 2016

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    Good Times!

    Happy Thanksgiving Gary.
    Thank you. A very nice day with the family and got a little work done on a customers vehicle while the women were rampaging around the kitchen.

    Best to stay out the way!


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    Re: Relentless 2016

    THIS IS SO AWESOME! hopefully another thread full of WIN! without all the other devil drama from the other...

    so, whats the plan on the intake and "backhalf"? you changing something with the rear "axle" too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmniLuvr View Post
    THIS IS SO AWESOME! hopefully another thread full of WIN! without all the other devil drama from the other...

    so, whats the plan on the intake and "backhalf"? you changing something with the rear "axle" too?
    Intake will be some sort of big plenum unit, either based on the one or two piece. I'll have to do some runner and volume calculations.

    Rear axle? Yes, just a bit being changed back there.


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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Looks like a whole lot is changing.
    Is Relentless II going RWD?
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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    Looks like a whole lot is changing.
    Is Relentless II going RWD?
    Relentless will always be 8V and FWD.

    Just making the rear as light as possible.


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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Extending wheelbase?
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    Re: Relentless 2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheming View Post
    Extending wheelbase?
    Nope, just weight reduction. Light as possible out back, everything back there is just getting dragged along for the ride so mass needs to be reduced as much as possible.

    I do have one eye on the possibility of a "traction bar" out back one day but lets see how the car performs first.

    Even the owner is going on a diet, foolish to spend hundreds to save 20 pounds when the owner is carrying around an extra 20 as well.

    To be honest Wayne, this is just the continuation of plans set in motion 10 years ago, shelved and picked up again. Make the car as light as practical, bigger slicks and make more power. I was working on all three when it all went to hell. I was actually getting more HP out of Calders 2.2 than I did from the 2.5 I was running with 5 pounds less boost. Trading torque for HP. I'd had to retool my transaxle package of course but that just goes with the territory.

    There have been some minor changes due to advances in turbos, cams & intakes for example and what I wish to do to the car due to what is available to me now.. but the basic plan is still the same. I have more space to work, cash to spend on parts, more advanced tools and experience.

    I'm itching to get rolling.
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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Are you going 2.2 or 2.5 this time around?

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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow88 View Post
    are you going 2.2 or 2.5 this time around?
    2.2 sohc


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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Sounds like a good plan. And that is some of my thoughts with Mini as well. There are easier ways now, which make sense for reliability and less stress on parts.
    Not to say you still can't use from the old bag of tricks...
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    Re: Relentless 2016

    i heard you say you were going away from stock electronics. any ideas on what ecu you are going to use? Curiosity of course.

    Brian

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    This one is easy, I have myself to blame, I rush things, don't pay attention to gauges when I should, change to much stuff at once then expect miracles, the list is endless.

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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Even the owner is going on a diet, foolish to spend hundreds to save 20 pounds when the owner is carrying around an extra 20 as well.
    that's my unfair advantage, all my friends say I should have been a horse jockey... and good luck on the diet, with the car and yourself...

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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    i heard you say you were going away from stock electronics. any ideas on what ecu you are going to use? Curiosity of course.

    Brian
    Still researching.

    Looking for crank trigger, individual coil pack, charge air temp compensation, wide band O2 and possible boost control based on time/speed/brake inputs.

    I want nothing EFI related running off the intermediate shaft, already bit me on the --- once and cost me a motor.


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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by mopar-tech View Post
    Relentless will always be 8V and FWD.
    Amen to that Brotha!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Spent the day cleaning the shop, throwing out stuff and repairing stuff- Rebuilt two jacksafts and an axle, organized some stuff for the Dart project and just doing general housecleaning. I swear stuff just breeds in the corners at times. Customer picked up his truck I worked on yesterday.

    Clearing the decks.

    Oh. And I went to work and had my son pull the fire alarm for a second shift fire drill.


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    Re: Relentless 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by mopar-tech View Post
    Still researching.

    Looking for crank trigger, individual coil pack, charge air temp compensation, wide band O2 and possible boost control based on time/speed/brake inputs.

    I want nothing EFI related running off the intermediate shaft, already bit me on the --- once and cost me a motor.
    Im leery of the oilpump gear failing and it nuking a motor that way.

    1fastcsx289 lost a motor by the oil pump gear failing and having a crank triggered setup, it kept running.

    i guess either scenario sucks.

    it would be nice to be able to have the oil pump driven by a shaft without a right angle gear setup.... or get those parts hardened somehow or create an oil jet on the gears to keep them well lubed.

    Brian

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    This one is easy, I have myself to blame, I rush things, don't pay attention to gauges when I should, change to much stuff at once then expect miracles, the list is endless.

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