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    A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Ok guys I need a show of hands of who wants one. I will need a minimum of 10 plate sold to get this going. These plates will be fully CNC machined and made of 4140 chromoly steel, and will replace the stock cast aluminum bearing plate. JT and myself have been running the prototypes for the past year. I only have half a dozen passes on my car since the plate was installed, and JT has 20+ passes, and about 1500 + miles on his. I had my trans apart twice over the past year with no issues with this plate. JT didn't get a chance to take his apart yet, but will be after the season is over, and before we start making these. The buyer will need to provide the stock aluminum support plate, so i can remove the shift rod bushing, and install them in the steel plate. buyer will also need to provide a stock steel backing plate (the thin steel plate that is bolted to the aluminum support plate). I will be modifying this by adding two bolt holes and removing the portion over the input shaft all on the CNC. The price is $375.00 + shipping To make things easy on myself, shipping will be a $13 USPS flat rate box, Payment will be made through paypal or a money order. When paying through paypal If you choose NOT to gift the payment you will need to add 3% to your total. I will need a $200 deposit from everybody on the list before any stock is ordered, and the balance will be due upon completion. I think doing a list like in other group buys worked the best. Only put your name on the list if are 100% sure you will be buying one. list info should be your TM screen name, and your actual name.

    My shipping address is
    Adam Lengel
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    Please ask any questions you may have.

    Timeline
    Now till 12/1/15 To put your name on the list
    12/1/15 till 12/15/15 To pay deposit ($200)
    12/15/15 till 12/31/15 Time for myself to order and receive stock.
    12/31/15 till 3/1/16 Time to machine all parts
    3/1/16 till 3/7/16 week for shipping










    1: glhs727-Cindy Lindsay (deposit paid for 2) (plates received)
    2: rx2mazda-Carroll Roberts (paid in full) ( plates received) shipped
    3: Pat- Patrick Culkin ( paid in full) (plates received) shipped
    4: chargerturbo87-Steve Earsley (paid in full) (plates received) shipped
    5: karlak-Karl Akridge (paid in full)
    6: 135sohc-Craig Griffin (paid in full)(steel plate received) shipped
    7: c2xejk-Edward Kelly (paid in full) (plates received) shipped
    8: Ondonti-Brent Seman ( paid in full)(Kyle's plates received)
    9: Ondonti-Brent Seman (deposit paid) (plates full)
    10: Shadow-Robert Mclellan (paid in full) (plates received) shipped
    11: DOHCRT-Vic Dobney (paid in full) (plates received) shipped
    12: cjbintx-Chris Baker (paid in full) (plates received) shipped
    13: cheezit53-Dominic Manzella (TD) ( paid in full) (plates received) Shipped
    14: BadAssPerformance - JT (paid in full) (plates received) shipped
    15: BadAssPerformance - JT (paid in full) (plates received) shipped
    16: Turbo Joe (paid in full) (plates received) Shipped
    17: TAFT CAMS-Nicolaus Kuehn (paid in full) (plates received) Shipped
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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates


    Plate work look awesome!! At what power levels is this plate needed?


    Put me down for one, maybe two....
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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    must resist buying shiney !! nice work Adam I can see me on that list in Nov when my birthday hits
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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Wish you were doing this 6 months ago, now my 568 is already rebuilt and back in my car

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    A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Quote Originally Posted by glhs727 View Post

    Plate work look awesome!! At what power levels is this plate needed?


    Put me down for one, maybe two....
    I really don't know. I know I was seeing sings of mine flexing a lot. JT was cracking them. I also think these will help the bearing race from walking off the main shaft, and that can happen on lower hp cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Joe View Post
    must resist buying shiney !! nice work Adam I can see me on that list in Nov when my birthday hits
    Sounds good Joe! See you down at Cecil.

    Quote Originally Posted by moparzrule View Post
    Wish you were doing this 6 months ago, now my 568 is already rebuilt and back in my car
    It's a turbo dodge It will be out soon! Hope not. Hope to see some good things from your car in the future.
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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Quote Originally Posted by lengel View Post
    I really don't know. I know I was seeing sings mine flexing a lot. JT was cracking them. I also think these will help the bearing race from walking off the main shaft, and that can happen on lower hp cars.
    I agree that it could help reduce the bearing race walk-off issue. I've cracked 4 stock plates. You can also see uneven contact from 4th gear showing the plate is flexing.

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    Hmmm, I might be down for another, need to check funds

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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Just for absolute clarification you are referring to the 4 Teflon/bronze bushings that the shifting rods ride on, those are being pressed out of the old plate and reinstalled into the new one ?
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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Quote Originally Posted by 135sohc View Post
    Just for absolute clarification you are referring to the 4 Teflon/bronze bushings that the shifting rods ride on, those are being pressed out of the old plate and reinstalled into the new one ?
    Correct

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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    I am probably going to want in on this...gotta get funds in line...

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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Put me on the list. Thanks for doing these

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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Quote Originally Posted by lengel View Post
    Ok guys I need a show of hands of who wants one. I will need a minimum of 10 plate sold to get this going. These plates will be fully CNC machined and made of 4140 chromoly steel, and will replace the stock cast aluminum bearing plate. JT and myself have been running the prototypes for the past year. I only have half a dozen passes on my car since the plate was installed, and JT has 20+ passes, and about 1500 + miles on his. I had my trans apart twice over the past year with no issues with this plate. JT didn't get a chance to take his apart yet, but will be after the season is over, and before we start making these. The buyer will need to provide the stock aluminum support plate, so i can remove the shift rod bushing, and install them in the steel plate. buyer will also need to provide a stock steel backing plate (the thin steel plate that is bolted to the aluminum support plate). I will be modifying this by adding two bolt holes and removing the portion over the input shaft all on the CNC. The price is $375.00 + shipping To make things easy on myself, shipping will be a $13 USPS flat rate box, Payment will be made through paypal or a money order. When paying through paypal If you choose NOT to gift the payment you will need to add 3% to your total. I will need a $200 deposit from everybody on the list before any stock is ordered, and the balance will be due upon completion. I think doing a list like in other group buys worked the best. Only put your name on the list if are 100% sure you will be buying one. list info should be your TM screen name, and your actual name.

    Please ask any questions you may have.

    Timeline
    Now till 12/1/15 To put your name on the list
    12/1/15 till 12/15/15 To pay deposit ($200)
    12/15/15 till 12/31/15 Time for myself to order and receive stock.
    12/31/15 till 3/1/16 Time to machine all parts
    3/1/16 till 3/7/16 week for shipping










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    2: rx2mazda-Carroll Roberts
    3: Pat - Patrick Culkin
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    Include me also. Thanks.
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    2: rx2mazda-Carroll Roberts
    3: Pat - Patrick Culkin
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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    I agree that it could help reduce the bearing race walk-off issue. I've cracked 4 stock plates. You can also see uneven contact from 4th gear showing the plate is flexing.

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    Hmmm, I might be down for another, need to check funds
    JT, on the new plate, are you showing use of the replacement or is this pre-installation? Just wondering how the wear is on it after use and that pic looks like new.
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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper1 View Post
    I am probably going to want in on this...gotta get funds in line...
    Yeah same here, making more money now so should be able to funnel a bit off to the side for projects. 2.5 TIII is probably gonna be making some torque
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    I will take one. Karl Akridge

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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Quote Originally Posted by minigts View Post
    JT, on the new plate, are you showing use of the replacement or is this pre-installation? Just wondering how the wear is on it after use and that pic looks like new.
    First two pics are of one of the damaged stock aluminum plates and the next pics are of the new CM plate installation. I have not removed it yet for review. I did put 3 more passes on it last night tho.

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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Never see the power to justify this but I like the idea of strengthening the case regardless.

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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    These will work with the 543, correct?

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    Re: A568 & 523 CNC machined 4140 bearing support plates

    Quote Originally Posted by c2xejk View Post
    These will work with the 543, correct?

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    I Just asked Jackson to be sure that they share the same plate. Yes they will work in a 543.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lengel View Post
    I Just asked Jackson to be sure that they share the same plate. Yes they will work in a 543.
    525 as well?
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