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    TIII lifter alternatives

    Since actual TIII lifters are getting hard to come by, and often have issues when you do find them even new, what's the other options? We have a rebuilder looking at some for a Spirit RT I'm working on, and I found mention of some successfully using a Mercedes V8 exhaust lifter on the other site. My thoughts were that if Lotus designed the head, seems like they'd have used a lifter they or a supplier already had in use, maybe in an Elise or Espirit. How critical is it to have the little foot on the bottom, could a lash cap be used on the valve stem instead?
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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    FWD was supposed to be working on a new run of lifters. The thread in their section just kinda died out even though there was interest...

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    Here's what I got from the other site, pretty sure lengel is who is running these.

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/470837336021517153/
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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    That's pretty cool. Hopefully Lengels will drop in with some wisdom.

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    I've been running them for years. They work.

    I'd get the Mercedes disks also instead of modifying the lifter the way I did.

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    This is great. I got these lifters maybe 3-4 years ago....meant to post about them but never followed thru. My friend works at MB parts so got a good discount!

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    Anyone have a part number or Benz application for the lifters and caps?

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    washers #113-055-00-76
    lifter #113-050-03-80 (intake), 113-050-00-80 (exhaust)

    order 16 intakes, the exhaust have a restrictor inside.

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by rx2mazda View Post
    washers #113-055-00-76
    lifter #113-050-03-80 (intake), 113-050-00-80 (exhaust)

    order 16 intakes, the exhaust have a restrictor inside.
    Cool! Thanks

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    So we don't want the restrictor? Was kinda unclear about that on the other site. Wonder why the exhaust has a restrictor and the intake doesn't?
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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by rx2mazda View Post
    washers #113-055-00-76
    lifter #113-050-03-80 (intake), 113-050-00-80 (exhaust)

    order 16 intakes, the exhaust have a restrictor inside.
    upon looking up those part numbers i'm finding that the 03-80's are exhaust and the 00-80 are intake?
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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    I'm using BGA hl6312 lifters from rock auto. They're a drop in direct replacement, exactly like the original.

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by spirit1991 View Post
    I'm using BGA hl6312 lifters from rock auto. They're a drop in direct replacement, exactly like the original.
    Interesting! 11mm Fiat Panda lifter. $8.95 a pop. Gonna order 1 a compare.

    EDIT: These look to be the exact same as stock, including the little black plastic caps and sealing ring. I like the build of the mercedes lifter better but these can use stock lifter disc. Also, they ship from UK so its like 25$

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    Very interested in how this plays out...

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by zin View Post
    Very interested in how this plays out...

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    The BGA HL6312 type, (actual genuine Fiat ones are installed in my R/T) are perfect. I tested the BGA's and they're working great as well.

    I do have to disclaimer that they were hard to get. The test batch had a mix of the Mercedes lifters and Fiat lifters. The Fiats are 100% percent identical. And the only difference in the BGA's is the look of the machining. Overall I'd say there is no difference, but figured the Fiats were a touch nicer, but its probably just me being picky.

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    How can I order these from Rock Auto? I would need an application to look it up.

    After buying at least 5 sets of these from FWDP I kinda wonder. I've shared hard to find part numbers before (like cheap Cometic gaskets for the Masi 16v). Jeez.

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by iTurbo View Post
    How can I order these from Rock Auto? I would need an application to look it up.

    After buying at least 5 sets of these from FWDP I kinda wonder. I've shared hard to find part numbers before (like cheap Cometic gaskets for the Masi 16v). Jeez.
    DO a part number search on RockAuto. They came right up but are showing $9.57 for me and only 7 remaining.

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by spirit1991 View Post
    The BGA HL6312 type, (actual genuine Fiat ones are installed in my R/T) are perfect. I tested the BGA's and they're working great as well.

    I do have to disclaimer that they were hard to get. The test batch had a mix of the Mercedes lifters and Fiat lifters. The Fiats are 100% percent identical. And the only difference in the BGA's is the look of the machining. Overall I'd say there is no difference, but figured the Fiats were a touch nicer, but its probably just me being picky.
    What s the part number for the OEM Fiat brand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlak View Post
    What s the part number for the OEM Fiat brand?
    fiat 7660771

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    Re: TIII lifter alternatives

    Awesome information to have! Thanks for sharing. I'll be putting a fresh set in my TIII that has had them replaced fairly recently yet they're noisy again.

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