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    Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    I came across this site and thought it might be worth a shot. I own a 1985 Dodge Aries Wagon with the 2.2 liter engine and a factory 4 speed transmission. I had to get the clutch replaced and when the flywheel was removed for machine work they broke one of the bolts. I have not had any luck so far with locating replacement flywheel bolts for this car. The questions I would have are...
    1. Would the automatic flexplate bolts interchange with the manual transmission flywheel bolts?

    2. Is there a difference between turbo and non-turbo flywheels on the manual transmission cars?

    Any help or advice I would be thankful for because I would love to get this wagon back on the road.

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    1) No
    2) Yes

    Need any bolts? I have buckets of them

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    The flywheels take longer bolts than the flex plates and IMO aren't interchangeable. The turbo flywheels are different than the non-turbo flywheels. I believe the bolts are the same though. The turbo flywheels take a different clutch than the non-turbo units. If you put up a parts wanted ad on here I'm sure someone would have a flywheel bolt they would be willing to part with.

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    Being it is an 85, it should have 6 bolt crank to flywheel fasteners. Also they will have a more course pitch thread than the 8 bolt later crank/flywheel/bolts. 10mm X 1.50 pitch is what you are looking for. The later cranks 86+ used a 8) 10mm X 1.0 pitch bolts.
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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    Quote Originally Posted by mopar-tech View Post
    1) No
    2) Yes

    Need any bolts? I have buckets of them

    Gary Donovan
    Gary, I need a set of flywheel, & pressure plate bolts for an 89 T1. Let me know pricing, and I can paypal you.

    Thanks

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    The clutch cover to flywheel is real common, any good grade bolt will do but I'll look to see if I can find you 6.

    The others are yours for the cost of shipping, I'll pull them tonight.

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    Quote Originally Posted by mopar-tech View Post
    The clutch cover to flywheel is real common, any good grade bolt will do but I'll look to see if I can find you 6.

    The others are yours for the cost of shipping, I'll pull them tonight.

    Gary
    Awesome, thanks. We have a pretty decent selection of metric bolts at work. I can probably come up with the pressure plate bolts then. Just let me know how to pay you for the flywheel bolts, and what I owe you.

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    I may be interested in them, I am having lousy luck down here. There is a vintage car salvage yard with a bunch of front wheel drive mopars in there about 50 miles from my house. But the manual transmission cars are still together (they do have 2 Shelby Chargers though) and it would be alot of effort to drop a transmission out of a briar encrusted car for six flywheel bolts. PM me with a price and shipping details if you want.

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    Quote Originally Posted by 83scamp View Post
    Awesome, thanks. We have a pretty decent selection of metric bolts at work. I can probably come up with the pressure plate bolts then. Just let me know how to pay you for the flywheel bolts, and what I owe you.
    I'll get this done today, sorry for it slipping through the cracks. The last week has been brutal at work.


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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    The pressure plate bolts are perfectly normal bolts. The flywheel-to-crank bolts are specialized bolts that have an unthreaded shoulder/shank near the top that is a semi-tight fit into the flywheel and helps to locate it. I believe they are also 12.9 rated.

    I tried replacing them with bolts without the special shank area and ended up having to take the trans off and replace them when the flywheel worked loose. So i would say oem bolts are a necessity. They're fairly hard to find now because they're different than the bolts for the later 8-bolt crank. I used 'normal' bolts because at the time i couldn't easily get my hands on any oems. Looks like you won't have that problem right now!

    Now i have 2 extra sets, one of them still in the mopar baggy from who knows when.

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    is the shoulder different at the bolt head when compareing a flex plate bolt to a flywheel bolt ?

    I don't see how the extra length would matter otherwise as long as you used a full set of matching bolts (?)
    (matching weight )

    asking as I never did anything with the auto fwd trans' , except throw em in the scrap pile when I pulled them in favor of a 5spd

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 83scamp View Post
    Awesome, thanks. We have a pretty decent selection of metric bolts at work. I can probably come up with the pressure plate bolts then. Just let me know how to pay you for the flywheel bolts, and what I owe you.
    Pop me your address via PM and I'll get these (6) out US Priority mail tomorrow.

    $6 for shipping via paypal garydonovan@hotmail.com

    As you can see, the driveway of death claimed many victims and this was just one draw.


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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

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    Pop me your address via PM and I'll get these (6) out US Priority mail tomorrow.

    $6 for shipping via paypal garydonovan@hotmail.com

    As you can see, the driveway of death claimed many victims and this was just one draw.

    Thanks Gary, but I need 8 of them. I need these for my Daytona, not my Scamp. I'll PM you my address and you should see the money shortly.

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    Quote Originally Posted by 83scamp View Post
    Thanks Gary, but I need 8 of them.

    I was referring to the original poster who needs 6x 1985 vintage flywheel bolts, this is his thread after all.

    Can do 8 of the later ones for you as well, same deal.

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    Thank you very much, just sent you a e-mail, and found you on PayPal !!! I cannot wait to get this wagon on the road.

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    Quote Originally Posted by mopar-tech View Post
    I was referring to the original poster who needs 6x 1985 vintage flywheel bolts, this is his thread after all.

    Can do 8 of the later ones for you as well, same deal.

    Gary

    OK, PM sent, money sent. Sorry, you quoted me, so I assumed you were refering to my inquiry.

    Thanks!!!!

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    I don't see how the extra length would matter otherwise as long as you used a full set of matching bolts (?)
    (matching weight )
    The length is different because the flywheel is much thicker then the flexplate. The actual thread engagement is the same as long as you are using the correct bolts, but if you used flexplate bolts in a flywheel you'd have very little thread engagement and would almost certainly ruin the end of your crankshaft when it finally came apart.

    Sounds like you have the right ones coming to you, so no worries!

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    Sorry about confusion with replies, both packages should be on the way this morning.

    Gary


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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vigo View Post
    The length is different because the flywheel is much thicker then the flexplate. The actual thread engagement is the same as long as you are using the correct bolts, but if you used flexplate bolts in a flywheel you'd have very little thread engagement and would almost certainly ruin the end of your crankshaft when it finally came apart.

    Sounds like you have the right ones coming to you, so no worries!
    lol
    yeah the flexplate bolts not working with the flywheel is a given
    I was wondering if the shoulder on the flywheel bolts would leave you with a bolt head raised above the surface of theflexplate if you used the flywheel bolts on a flexplate

    I wouldn't see the extra length being an issue as the holes are drilled all the way through the back end of the crank

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    Re: Flywheel bolts for a non-turbo K-car wagon.

    Both packages are in the mail

    Gary


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