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    Shadow hatch weight?

    Has anyone ever weighed the rear hatch on a Shadow? If so, what did it weigh? Anyone ever try to lighten the hatch on a Shadow? If so how much weight from stock was removed? I wish a fiberglass hatch was available!

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    Re: Shadow hatch weight?

    I gutted mine, lexan back window and made a trunk lid that pins on, lost almost 60 pounds....

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    Re: Shadow hatch weight?

    Quote Originally Posted by MILKCARTON View Post
    I gutted mine, lexan back window and made a trunk lid that pins on, lost almost 60 pounds....
    Wow! Any pictures? Got my attention!

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    Re: Shadow hatch weight?

    Later hatches weigh more than the early ones because there are less cutouts in the inner panel. Either one weighs a ton, mostly due to the glass.

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    Re: Shadow hatch weight?

    I had my Sundance so gutted that I could lift the rear of the car by myself....with the stock hatch....I could have been much lighter!

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    Re: Shadow hatch weight?

    Quote Originally Posted by glhs875 View Post
    Wow! Any pictures? Got my attention!
    How heavy was your wing?
    From memory, the Window is only 22 pounds and the metal hatch like 18 pounds. 3/16" Lexan cuts the window to 11 and gutting the hatch brings you between 10-14 pounds depending how crazy you get. Remove the seal and you save maybe 2-3 pounds.

    That is savings of 17-22 pounds not including your wing.

    Then after you do all that you start regretting it. Noise and wind problems (no seal) so you go back to the drawing board.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: Shadow hatch weight?

    How is the back glass held in? With only a sealer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    How heavy was your wing?
    From memory, the Window is only 22 pounds and the metal hatch like 18 pounds. 3/16" Lexan cuts the window to 11 and gutting the hatch brings you between 10-14 pounds depending how crazy you get. Remove the seal and you save maybe 2-3 pounds.

    That is savings of 17-22 pounds not including your wing.

    Then after you do all that you start regretting it. Noise and wind problems (no seal) so you go back to the drawing board.
    So your saying that one could remove about 15lbs, not including the spoiler from the hatch, and still have it function normally!?

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    Re: Shadow hatch weight?

    Quote Originally Posted by glhs875 View Post
    How is the back glass held in? With only a sealer?
    Yes. The trim piece around it is held in with screws, but it's the urethane which actually seals and holds it in place.

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    Re: Shadow hatch weight?

    Quote Originally Posted by glhs875 View Post
    How is the back glass held in? With only a sealer?
    The black outer trim does a lot to hold the window, and the lower piece helps form your lexan. On the glass, it protects the edge. I lost mine when my window blew out somewhere in Eastern Oregon. There was still a piece of the window left inside the black trim. My next window I put some fasteners in the bottom and left the top held in by the trim.

    Quote Originally Posted by glhs875 View Post
    So your saying that one could remove about 15lbs, not including the spoiler from the hatch, and still have it function normally!?
    Yes, I would avoid removing anything that has to do with the seal. Its not worth it. I went back and built something to act like a seal because of the problems and noise. The airflow through the top for example, helped blow out my rear window at speed.
    Brent GREAT DEPRESSION RACING 1992 Duster 3.0T The Junkyard - MS II, OEM 10:1 -[I] Old - 11.5@125 22psi $90 [U]Stock[/U] 3.0 Junk Motor - 1 bar MAP [/I] 1994 Spirit 3.0T - 11.5@120 20 psi - Daily :eyebrows: Holset He351 -FT600 - 393whp 457ft/lb @18psi 1994 Spirit 3.0T a670 - He341, stock fuel, BEGI. Wife's into kid's project. 1990 Lebaron Coupe 2.2 TI/II non IC, a413 1990 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1993 Spirit 3.0 E.S. 41TE -- 1994 Duster 3.0 A543 1981 Starlet KP61 Potential driver -- 1981 Starlet KP61 Parts -- 1983 Starlet KP61 Drag 2005 Durango Hemi Limited -- 1998 Dodge 12v 47re. AFC mods, No plate, Mack plug, Boost elbow -- 2011 Dodge 6.7 G56

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    Re: Shadow hatch weight?

    Quote Originally Posted by glhs875 View Post
    Wow! Any pictures? Got my attention!
    Text me and I will shoot ya some pix 719-963-9208

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