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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    My '88 has a tilt. My '90 does not.

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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    I put a Tilt column in the Shadow back in 2007 and then switched back to the fixed column in 2011. The added slop from the tilt mechanism was annoying beyond belief and truth be told I don't really miss it. Having a power seat base with more adjustment and the lumbar adjustment (Shout out to Pat those ES bucket seats are still going strong) really negated the need for a tilt column.
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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    I put in a tilt column in my CSX cause i hated the fixed position, it was off just enough to annoy me. i used a G body column I got from turbovanman and I remember a slight mod i had to do but nothing major..may have just been where the wiring plugs into but i forget. So i know you CAN put a g body column in a p body. I hear you on being over the limit on cars.. same here...
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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by 135sohc View Post
    I put a Tilt column in the Shadow back in 2007 and then switched back to the fixed column in 2011. The added slop from the tilt mechanism was annoying beyond belief and truth be told I don't really miss it. Having a power seat base with more adjustment and the lumbar adjustment (Shout out to Pat those ES bucket seats are still going strong) really negated the need for a tilt column.
    Slop really that bad and was it just a bad unit?

    Still have fixed in my P body and tilt in both my Spirits. I have never noticed anything odd about the tilt wheels but I don't autocross them or anything.
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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Joe View Post
    I put in a tilt column in my CSX cause i hated the fixed position, it was off just enough to annoy me. i used a G body column I got from turbovanman and I remember a slight mod i had to do but nothing major..may have just been where the wiring plugs into but i forget. So i know you CAN put a g body column in a p body. I hear you on being over the limit on cars.. same here...
    The G body unit has much less space between the top of the column and where the pads mount to the dash. If you wanted to swap mounting collars I guess you could make that work. They do line up the same from what I recall. The wiring on the top of the column is different in how the connectors are oriented, but they will stretch over there and fit in place.

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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    Saginaw columns are well known for some bolts coming loose about halfway down and making it feel like dog ----. It's a fairly PITA repair just to tighten some bolts (with loctite!!), but once tightened i don't feel they are any worse than any other k-car column. I've had tilt and non-tilt versions of the same car and never found any reason to prefer the fixed ones other than NEVER having to tighten those loose bolts. I have the tools and knowhow and would take the bad with the good. I value the adjustability.

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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Vigo View Post
    Saginaw columns are well known for some bolts coming loose about halfway down and making it feel like dog ----. It's a fairly PITA repair just to tighten some bolts (with loctite!!), but once tightened i don't feel they are any worse than any other k-car column. I've had tilt and non-tilt versions of the same car and never found any reason to prefer the fixed ones other than NEVER having to tighten those loose bolts. I have the tools and knowhow and would take the bad with the good. I value the adjustability.
    You can tighten enough of them without getting too deep into the column that total disassembly isn't necessary IMO. For me it's a necessity regardless. It's illegal in 37 states for me to mate with the standard column which is the only way I can drive with one in the car. It's a bad scene.

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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Vigo View Post
    Saginaw columns are well known for some bolts coming loose about halfway down and making it feel like dog ----. It's a fairly PITA repair just to tighten some bolts (with loctite!!), but once tightened i don't feel they are any worse than any other k-car column.
    Yup, I made a fairly good living repairing tilt columns (after learning how to do it lots of times under warranty) and still have all the tools for the job.

    I'll have to look at the g-body unit I have here, might give it a go.

    I did drop a note to the k-car owner so we will see what they say on the cars condition.


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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    I pull those inverted torx bolts out of the columns and put in standard allen headed bolts. Makes it much easier to tighten with a ball nose allen wrench.

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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    Pitched another power module in the car for testing, four more to go.


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    Merry Christmas everyone!

    Looks like #193 is going to have a stablemate. I'm working a deal on a second non-running 87 CSX #561 that I'm going to swap over some parts. From there the car is going to go over to my sons who are tasked with getting it back on the road. I have an 86 Turbo I that is just lying around, plenty of TII intakes, etc.

    They were told that they can have the car free and clear but they have to work on it.

    I just need to change out pinion bearings in the Ram this weekend and I'll be ready to make pickup.

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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    Merry Christmas my friend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mopar-tech View Post
    I just need to change out pinion bearings in the Ram this weekend and I'll be ready to make pickup.
    CHUNKY!

    Might have lucked out, only the outer pinion bearing is bad.


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    CSX 561 is home, the boys start work on the motor tomorrow. I have an 86-87 TI we are going to slap a 89 TII intake on along with a mitsu turbo and Nick donated a 555 along with some other parts.

    Plan is to get it up and running first and then they can work on the interior.


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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    Rampage/CSX update- I installed a new am/fm/mp3 stereo in the wife's Rampage.

    http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PLR34M-He...JWRGKNC5JA2NHE

    Very impressed. Has decent sound and the MP3 playback function seemed to work with no issues.

    Now that I tried it out on her car now I'm going to install one in the CSX when I get a spare moment. Will be nice to have music playback without going through an adapter to the tape player.


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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    i've been toying with that same idea with bluetooth so my phone can link to it and play music and internet radio too..
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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Joe View Post
    i've been toying with that same idea with bluetooth so my phone can link to it and play music and internet radio too..
    Thats what I did and I'm never going back. Phone automatically connects when I get in the car and even takes phone calls thru the radio.

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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    pioneer deh x6700bt

    bluetooth, good power and sound and under 100$.

    just put one in my 07 town and country. it is awesome.

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    This one is easy, I have myself to blame, I rush things, don't pay attention to gauges when I should, change to much stuff at once then expect miracles, the list is endless.

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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    pioneer deh x6700bt

    bluetooth, good power and sound and under 100$.

    just put one in my 07 town and country. it is awesome.

    Brian
    I really have no use for CD playback, almost a dead format at this point.


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    Re: 1987 CSX for SDAC 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by mopar-tech View Post
    I really have no use for CD playback, almost a dead format at this point.
    there is a non cd version. dont remember the part number but i saw it when searching for mine.

    i have kids cds to play in the van still for the younguns lol. and my wife has cds she likes to listen to. still need CD format for a little while yet.

    most of the time i use bluetooth audio to play tunes from my phone.

    Brian

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    This one is easy, I have myself to blame, I rush things, don't pay attention to gauges when I should, change to much stuff at once then expect miracles, the list is endless.

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