Seems like a couple people need to stop drinking the Kool-Aid and start smelling the coffee around here. Rob wants FACTS? Here's one- Shadow has no intentions of ever purchasing anything from TU. His motive here is purely to stir the pot so potential customers waiting for his coveted F4 cams to finally be produced don't drop off and buy ours instead. Without ever having tried our R5 camshaft Rob’s absolutely sure it's not as good as the F4. You would think he was getting royalty checks or something. Or maybe just a free cam... hmmmmm. Oh, so that's how it works
Wondering if he would have done the same for us back when he wanted us to GIVE him one of our Stage IV clutches to test.
We all know which vendor he leans towards. His opinions are so obviously biased. Remember, Rob never pushed FWD for LSA info but he is relentlessly pressing us for it. If he really felt the LSA was so important he could just measure it himself. All you need is the F4 cam he has, a degree wheel and dial indicator. But when Matt asked him he responded with “LSA of the F4 is 116 AFAIK”. As far as he knows??? So, the exact LSA suddenly isn't that important with the F4 to him but it is regarding our R5. Rob wants everyone to think he is so in tune with detail, but, did you notice that he has never once said anything about FWD's Billet F-4 camshaft not really being “Billet”? Last time I saw a NEW "Billet" F4 it was obviously cast which might explain the fuzzy picture on the site. Advertising it as top of the line "Billet" is false advertising and worthy of more critique than Rob is subjecting us to for not having the LSA available yet.
We should have the LSA info by next week, but, with 14 cams out the door already it doesn't seem to be that important to the buying public. No one ever asked about the LSA on our R2+ cams and we sold a bunch of them too. And, please be sure to thank Rob for his slanted efforts. Because of him we have decided to reduce the price of the R5 to $295. until we can get LSA info out to the camshaft owners.
As Frank already stated, not everyone's goals are the same and having more choices out there is never a bad thing for this tiny community. New products will always prove themselves over time as different combinations of parts are continually tested until the ideal set up is found for each individual person. A camshaft that might work well for a vehicle with a ported factory manifold and 39 psi boost levels would clearly not be the best choice for someone with a better flowing intake and exhaust manifold running sub 25 psi. We need to keep an open mind about ALL options otherwise it will only limit this community's ability to grow.
Have a Great Day!
Chris-TU