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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    No not mopar! Was going off topic.. One of my cousin overseas has a Toyota 4x4 turbo diesel minivan, manual trans too.
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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    I tried checking availability of the intermediate shaft bearings at work and there is no way to order export parts.

    What I want to see is how the bearing cup is held in the end plate.
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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    My main question is what is the A-598 transmission? Starting with the third gen minivans, they went from the A-568 to the A-598. Is it any better to the 568?

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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    Quote Originally Posted by bamman View Post
    My main question is what is the A-598 transmission? Starting with the third gen minivans, they went from the A-568 to the A-598. Is it any better to the 568?
    Looking at the diagram it seems they addressed some of the bearing issues with the 568 by running tapered bearings on the intermediate shaft. Other than that it seems to be the same or similar. I'm unsure of final drive or individual gear ratios though.
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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    Rock Auto has Euro parts, dunno if they'd have the tranny bearings though.
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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    Here is the A-598 FSM:
    ftp://oskin.ru/pub/chrysler-dodge/ma...er/EGS_21A.PDF

    GEAR RATIOS
    Gear ratios for the 2.4L gasoline engine and 2.5L
    Turbo Diesel MTX are as follows:
    1st—3.36
    2nd—1.90
    3rd—1.28
    4th—0.92
    5th—0.71
    Reverse—3.17

    Final drive ratio of 3.88 was selected for maximum
    performance. All forward gears are synchronized.
    Gear ratios for the 2.0L GAS MTX are as follows:
    1st—3.69
    2nd—2.24
    3rd—1.45
    4th—0.1.03
    5th—0.81
    Reverse—3.17
    Final drive ratio of 4.08 was selected for maximum
    performance. All forward gears are synchronized

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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    In the FSM, it also refers to this transmission as the NV T750. Here is one on eBay.co.uk:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111282735724

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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    The A588 and A598 are very similar to the A568. It seems from pictures that the A588 has the same type of shifting setup as the A568, but the case is missing the timing window on the bellhousing. The A598 is the T750. At least that's what I have been able to put together so far from pictures and what are supposed to be factual stories.

    I *think* the A588 was for the 2.4 gas engine and the A598 (T750) was for the diesel engine that uses our bellhousing.

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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    I just looked it up. Cindy was selling a a588 trans.
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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    Oh that's right. Well, that shoots my idea in the foot.

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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    So our beloved obsolete dinosaur transmissions lived on with chrysler europe long after they decided they were yesterdays junk over here?

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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    Looks that way
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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    Sure, they don't like automatics. Flip auto/man sales numbers and it's like that, only weak old ladies and the disabled drive them.
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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    Quote Originally Posted by shackwrrr View Post
    I tried checking availability of the intermediate shaft bearings at work and there is no way to order export parts.

    What I want to see is how the bearing cup is held in the end plate.
    The service manual shows it being pressed into the bearing bulkhead plate and then its got a shim and the backup plate to set the pre-load. The differential must be removed before the guts of the case are able to be removed because the bearing cone couldn't make it past the ring gear.

    The very first paragraph of the service manual says "These units are very similar the A523 and A568" They use bronze shifting forks as well...

    If it was possible to locate a bearing cone and cup setup for both ends of the shaft I don't see why we couldn't replicate the same thing and fix the problem once and for all.

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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    Anyone wanna....obtain some manual pages for the community good?
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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    There was some Russian site with a lot of Euro FSMs etc on. Having trouble finding it again though.
    DD1: '02 T&C Ltd, 3.8 AWD. DD2: '15 Versa Note SV, replacing.. DDx: '14 Versa Note SV << freshly killded :( ....... Projects: '88 Voyager 3.0, Auto with shift kit, timing advance, walker sound FX muffler on 15" pumpers wrapped in 215/65/R15 H rated Nexens.... and a '95 phord escort wagon PnP head << Both may need to go :( ..... I like 3.0s ... so??? ... stop looking at me like I've got two heads!

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    Re: Chrysler Voyager 2.5 Turbo Intercooled Diesel

    Quote Originally Posted by 85boostbox View Post
    I just looked it up. Cindy was selling a a588 trans.
    key word , was

    it's sitting on my dineing room table right now where it's been for a few months already

    now after finding this thread I wanna rip into it to see what's up with the inner guts

    to bad I'm stuck haveing to pack to move or I would but that will sadly have to wait a few months at least

    ... ? tapered bearings on the secondary shaft ??

    THIS I wanna see most of all if true - but why would they switch the input shaft bearings ?

    - that sounds like a typo without yet haveing had the time to read through the links above
    - which I'll take a better look at now

    nice to know there should be more 408 fd parts out there though

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