Can anyone tell me if there is a bell housing that fits a 2.2 that would allow me to install a rear wheel drive T-5 GM or Ford transmission on that motor.
Jeff
Can anyone tell me if there is a bell housing that fits a 2.2 that would allow me to install a rear wheel drive T-5 GM or Ford transmission on that motor.
Jeff
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I'm wondering did the small Dodge pickups use a setup like that?
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I'm under the impression that a Toyota trans was used/can be used. I'm sure it could be adapted to attach a different trans, say the T-5... hopefully someone who has personal experience will chime in.
Mike
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Early Dakotas were available with a 2.5 and 5 speed. I think Larry B was using that bellhousing with a 5speed from a MKIII Supra.
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You can use the 2.2 AX-15 bellhousing to mount any of the Aisin? type trans. AX-15, R154, MA5, etc etc. I posted a link in the thread about this, I think strangemajik started it?
Do you think the bellhousing would support the T5 pattern?
While not something you'd want to do at home, do you suppose a machine shop could do the conversion?
Mike
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Do you think the bellhousing would support the T5 pattern?
While not something you'd want to do at home, do you suppose a machine shop could do the conversion?
Mike
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Yes the AX15 bell can be used to affix the Supra R154 trans from the late 80's cars, also I believe the 5spd truck trans from the same era will also work. The Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice and also Chev Canyon, Colorado, H3 all use the Aisin AR-5 which will also work. The older dakota tras will work but can handle less power. From there you have have to verify the correct pilot bearing, clutch workings, ect. but it will bolt up.
The Early dakota 2.2/2.5 bellhousing would be the choice if you wanted to use a T5. I don't blame you on the T5 choice, lots more of them out there and the possibilities are endless. Plus really easy to rebuild.
Here are the two bellhousings:
I tried to find a bolt pattern measurement on the early bell but I couldn't. The transmission used with it is the a535(NV2500)
You would have to check the depth of the bellhousing but the T5 can be had with up to around a 7.85" input shaft so an adapter plate may be possible.
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I have a 2.5 bell chillin at my shop. When i swing out to grab some head springs ill grab a measure and let you know the depth of the bell and if i get time pull the trans off the stand and get you input shaft lengths, throw out bearing position, etc.
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What is the difference between those two? I have the one on the left.Originally Posted by shackwrrr
The Early dakota 2.2/2.5 bellhousing would be the choice if you wanted to use a T5. I don't blame you on the T5 choice, lots more of them out there and the possibilities are endless. Plus really easy to rebuild.
Here are the two bellhousings:
I tried to find a bolt pattern measurement on the early bell but I couldn't. The transmission used with it is the a535(NV2500)
You would have to check the depth of the bellhousing but the T5 can be had with up to around a 7.85" input shaft so an adapter plate may be possible.
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The backside bolt pattern to transmission, as well as possible bell differences like lengths.The dalkota bell seems more "universal" with the borg warner t5 and other comparable 4 bolt trannys, the ax15 bell bolts to other transmissions like the 154 and the ma5, if i recall correctly.And the liberty 2.4 bell has the same rear pattern as the ax style, with the "correct" 2.4 bell pattern as well as no motor "clocking" as the 2.5 and 2.2 are tilted 12? Degrees
Good info!
Thanks.
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The one on the left is for 1994 and earlier with the a535 transmission. Think you could measure the bolt pattern and center hole diameter?
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If he doesnt get it, i can. If the center of the transmission bell is in the same "center" as the t5, then you could simply have the input shaft bearing retainer machined down, or have the bell machined out.
If it bolts to a t5 that opens up the Tremec options as well?
If i ever put a tremec in my car i would probably make my own bellhousing
I thought you could install a tremec in place of the t5 using the t5 bellhousing?
Well hell, here goes a t56 then haha
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