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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    Vtec!!!!!

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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    Quote Originally Posted by 2.216VTurbo View Post
    Very cool You ever get any dyno pulls wit this set up? It would surely be interesting to see the curve where the timing changes
    No dyno pulls yet with this setup. A dyno like everything else performance oriented is 150 miles away from where I live. Maybe in the spring.

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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

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    Hot rod season is officially over. Now its time to get back to building for next year. I took an old Jeep 4.0 manifold and cut off one of the header tubes. The factory stepped the pipe up about 4 inches from the flange. I turned it around backwards and welded it to my wastegate flange. Now I just need to patch in the small area that's left and port it out nice and smooth.




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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    Quote Originally Posted by rgl10 View Post
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    Hot rod season is officially over. Now its time to get back to building for next year.
    That's funny, as yours ends, ours begins and visa versa. I should be racing right now but I've probably still got a month to go before I can hit the track from buttoning up my summer time upgrades. I'm hoping with my AC cooled intercooler and larger '95 Caravan radiator I can race in the summer now. Unfortunately for you, there's nothing you can do about snow on the track to extend your racing season.

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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    Finally getting back to working on the car. I have been gathering parts for the "annual" spring upgrade. I have had the TU exhaust manifold for a few months now.





    I've decided that since its so much work to change it out I will just go ahead and upgrade the turbo too. So now everything on the exhaust side will pretty much be replaced with bigger, better flowing parts. Of course getting a new turbo opened up a few possibilities too. I didn't want to go too big since this is my summer driver so I went with a TU T04E T3/T4 hybrid with a 46 trim compressor wheel and I will use my .63 turbine housing. That along with my custom swing valve should potentially flow more hp than I plan to make with this car. Here are a few pictures.


    First up is the new turbo. I laid it next to a TII turbo (maybe a super 60?) just for comparison.







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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    Work in continuing on the divorced waste gate setup. Pipes are welded in and just a little more porting needs done.

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    Waste gate pipe is angled to allow for better flow. Easy to see with a light shinning through it.


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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    This is just a rough mock up of how the flex pipes will be laid in. All subject to change though when I actually get it in the car.

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    Looks fantastic. Minorly bummed to see you ditching the .48 housing but thats a completely selfish feeling on my part. I'm sure you'll be happy with this setup. Should be capable of low 11s or better on boost alone if you want to push it that far.

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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    Looks good. Can hardly wait for you to get to a track and finally see what all of your modds are Really capable of!

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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    Thanks guys! I'm hoping for high 11's without nitrous. Pretty sure I will get to take it to run the 1/8 as that is the only drag track we have in the state. If all goes well I might get to take it to a 1/4 mile track in Pa or Md later on in the summer. Still trying to get the down pipe parts ready for the switch over hopefully in late March or early April. Yesterday I started on the collector that goes at the bottom of the flex pipes. Tried to keep the flow as smooth as possible putting the 3 inch and 1.5 inch pipes back into just a 3 inch exhaust. Lots more welding and grinding required.












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    Several welds and a lot more grinding and its starting to look like something. Needs welded at least one more time to fill in the gaps and a final grinding and it will be ready to go.



















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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    It's definitely a form-follows-function piece but it should work.

    forcefedmopar here ran high 11s in an omni with just an s60 turbo which is not much bigger than the stock T3. Pretty sure Shadow was involved with or built a car that ran low 11s with a 46 trim. I think there is more potential in the turbo then you're admitting to, especially with a good discharge section bolted to it. Your car is probably slightly heavy compared to the typical 'fast omni' but even so, i doubt you will max the setup at high 11s.

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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    If it breaks under 12 seconds on the motor I will be very happy. Going back to the downpipe I tacked the flex tubes on about where they will go. both have a nice nearly straight shot at the exhaust so turbulence and restriction in this area should be a thing of the past.









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    Finally got it all tacked together very close to its final shape. I know it looks like a Jarvik heart for an elephant but I'm confident it will flow much better than a stock setup. With a cutout at the bottom of this I really don't see any measureable amount of restriction taking place after the turbo.











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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    What are you going to do about the Nasty shoulder that will be inside of that mandrel 90 where it meets with the flex joint?

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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    I swelled the flex joint end till it was a tight fit into the elbow. Then I knife edged the two layers of the flex joint end by tapering it to the outside so nothing really sticks into the exhaust flow path. The elbow is a 3.5 inch od piece. I tried a 3 inch elbow but it just looked too small so I moved up to the 3.5 inch one and that made it fit on the outside of the 3 inch flex joint.

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    Am I NOT subscribed to this thread?!! SERIOUSLY? lol

    Hi Randy.
    I don't know how I missed ya over here, but I'm in now.
    Keep it up my friend; GREAT stuff.

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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    Hey Donnie! I post about the same stuff on here as I do on TD and WVstreets. However if someone asks a question I pretty much only give the answer on the forum it was asked on.
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    Re: 85 GLH Turbo experimental testbed build

    Quote Originally Posted by rgl10 View Post
    I swelled the flex joint end till it was a tight fit into the elbow. Then I knife edged the two layers of the flex joint end by tapering it to the outside so nothing really sticks into the exhaust flow path. The elbow is a 3.5 inch od piece. I tried a 3 inch elbow but it just looked too small so I moved up to the 3.5 inch one and that made it fit on the outside of the 3 inch flex joint.
    Nice! Will be very interesting to see the difference in drive pressure once your done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Nice! Will be very interesting to see the difference in drive pressure once your done
    Yeah I'm hoping to never see 60 psi in the exhaust manifold again lol.

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