Dash out of new dodge dart

[mobius]

I was thinking about getting a dash ordered out of a New dodge dart, and putting it into my 1989 Dodge Daytona. Anyone have any ideas on how this would be possible?

[shackwrrr]

Even after extensive modifications to make it bolt up( windshield has different curve, width, steering column, ect) the way all the electronics are set up, using them in something else would be impossible. Everything is done by CAN-IHS bus. The radio is a box under the passenger glove compartment, the touch screen is called the integrated center stack and works through the radio to control the HVAC. The cluster is yet another module which gets all its info from the PCM over the bus though a central gateway. The central gateway is the body control module(which controls everything else like wipers and headlights). In all seriousness you would have better luck rebuilding the Daytona dash using fiberglass around the factory stuff to look like a dart. You could even get creative using android tablets for the radio display and cluster.

[cordes]

I'm with Ian. I would do a custom carbon fiber piece etc. before I tried to put another dash into the car like that.

[mobius]

Let me rephrase what I'm trying to say. I just want to take the Gauges out and put them in, my Daytona is digital, so it should just be a matter of making the new display fit into the old dash. Which if i am correct will be a lot easier than what i said before, and I apologize for the confusion.

[contraption22]

Let me rephrase what I'm trying to say. I just want to take the Gauges out and put them in, my Daytona is digital, so it should just be a matter of making the new display fit into the old dash. Which if i am correct will be a lot easier than what i said before, and I apologize for the confusion.

I would think that what you intend would be the hardest part of the dash swap. Technology has evolved a tad over the last quarter century.

[Fox]

most likely the dart gauges have some type of computer that controls them and would be very difficult to get working properly

[Zuke]

I know this guy and he is not talking about installing the the complete dart dash assembly, he means the complete gauge cluster and modifying his existing factory 89 Shelby Daytona dash assembly for the dart gauges to fit.

[zin]

I'm not one to poo poo anyone's ambitions, but I will say it sounds an awful lot like installing fuel injection into a model T.

That said, anything is possible with enough time effort and money!

If you're just wanting to retrofit gauges, you'll need to find out how the gauges you want to transplant work,that is what kind of signal do they need to function properly, and how to properly feed them that signal.

It really does sound like it would be easier if you were only going back a generation, or even to an OBDII car, as they would be closer in technology, perhaps you could program an Andrino to act as a translator?

Mike

[shackwrrr]

The dart cluster is a module. There aren't inputs like a normal cluster has like water temp, oil pressure, ect. The Dart cluster uses computer bus lines to communicate with the PCM to display parameters read by the PCM. The dart cluster is more advanced than all of the electronics in your car combined lol.