Hey Rob, thanks for buying those rods from Mark, I'm glad they went to a good home! Also I cant wait to see the finished project! If you need a second set of hands for anything just let me know, I'm always willing to help and of course were right down the road.
Got my mini-scales today. Rods are 454g each. Is that light? I don't even know what the stockers weigh. Hmm, time to get the scales back out...
T2 rod
738.20g
T2 rod
710.05g
eagle rod
565.5g
Masi Casar rod 674.5g
Oliver 6.130" billet steel rod
567.8g
I have my Ti rod weight that Mike D told me written down somewhere but it's probably packed away in the storage unit for a while.
Weighed some more stuff...
JE pistons - 407g
Pins - 118g
Clips x2 - 2.7g
Lightened T2 rods - 702g
Stock 2.5 T1 piston + pin - 486g
So, I guess the ally rods are pretty light. But, the JE's are a bit portly...
Wow those are light, it should rev quickly!
so just your piston and rod, no ring/locks/pins =861g. The JE piston and oliver rod for the 2.5 masi I'm building is 869g. couple more g's but lighter at the end. Wonder which would rev faster if it were just both shortblocks.
Wow, that's pretty good. These pins seem really heavy compared to stock. I'm wondering if there's a thinner wall pin available. I've looked on eBay (for NASCAR surplus stuff) with no luck so far.Originally Posted by GLHNSLHT2
Also, these pistons will lose a few grams when I flat-top them.
I've got a lengel intake if you end up buying the pieces from Adam to weld up your own. You can use mine for mockup, I wont be needing it until spring.
74 Charger 440/727 91 Spirit R/T TIII/a568 95 Ram Cummins 12v/47RH
I'm not that close; I don't even have a head for this thing yet...
I have a head you can mock up with also, I need to get it to jackson eventually but funds have been tight with getting the truck back on daily duty.
Not sure if anything gets in the way since the TIII never came in that body style but I think jackson has one so maybe he would know
74 Charger 440/727 91 Spirit R/T TIII/a568 95 Ram Cummins 12v/47RH
I'am curious,what vin was a 2.5 tall block? What years and in what vehicles were they used in?
86-88 2.5 TBI engines were all Tall Deck blocks...
Were they all pseudo-common blocks? I'm interested in building a tall deck engine, and was under the impression that the 88 was the one to have, or at least had the common block webbing etc... I am lacking in my knowledge of the tall deck blocks and their "native homes".
Mike
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." - Patrick Henry
Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny.
- Edmund Burke
Both of mine had 86 casting dates and they both look just like common blocks...
Sub-freaking-scribed.
Jon J.
1989 Daytona ES 2.4L DOHC
2003 Neon SXT - gone but never forgotten
If it ain't broke, fix it 'till it is!
Yes, all tall blocks should have the same webbing design and material as the common block. When they did the common block, they just decided to "hack" off the top deck of the block to the standard 2.2 height, in laymans terms.
That's great! I was afraid I was going on another unobtainium hunt!
Mike
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That's great! I was afraid I was going on another unobtainium hunt!
Mike
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." - Patrick Henry
Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny.
- Edmund Burke
That's great! I was afraid I was going on another unobtainium hunt!
One more question, does it use the early style crank seals? I guess what I'm really asking is: can an early T1 crank be used without modification?
Mike
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." - Patrick Henry
Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny.
- Edmund Burke
Way cool build. I can't wait to see what you can do with it!
EDIT: I have a set of Cunningham rods and will try to weigh them soon. They are for a Masi 16v 2.0L build I lucked upon. I don't think they are Ti, but I got an advertisement/flyer with them and apparently Cunningham was making Ti versions of them too so maybe?
No, they used CB seal housings front and rear, and the oil pan is the same shape as a 2.5 balance shaft pan. Though, the TD pan doesn't have the nasty sound deadening panels in it.
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Ti will definitely 'ring' differently than steel or aluminum...
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