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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    Never saw/heard about one of those before.
    Good luck on your endeavor. Seems like you’re making good progress.

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    I'm not sure it was ever officially offered in the catalog or not, but it is the rear mount which eliminates the rear bobble strut and replaces it with another front motor mount insert. It's a bit of a monstrosity, but it's pretty cool due to the rarity. I believe the original owner was all about it.
    I believe that one found its way out the back door in the Whittier/Putnam Street plant days so if you're aware and using it, does that make you an accessory after the fact?

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    sounds VAGUELY familiar - like I've read about it somewhere before

    any chance of a pic while it's still waitin' for the clutch ??

    "I believe that one found its way out the back door in the Whittier/Putnam Street plant days so if you're aware and using it, does that make you an accessory after the fact?"

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    yeah for real... pics!!!!

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    Quote Originally Posted by 5DIGITS View Post
    Brian,
    While you're doing this, advance the intermediate shaft 'one tooth' which will allow the distributor to sit straight on the engine rather than the common production angle.
    It's unclear why this was done in such a manner numerous years ago but hestically it looks better straight rather than some ambiguous angle.

    Additionally, are you building this as a VNT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.216VTurbo View Post
    I believe that one found its way out the back door in the Whittier/Putnam Street plant days so if you're aware and using it, does that make you an accessory after the fact?
    There are a couple items on this car which fit that description from what I understand. The other one of note is the Shelby LSD. I haven't had to pull the trans apart yet, so no photos of that. I still worked well when I pulled it after the fire. IIRC the source for these parts said it cost around 8K to have made back in the 80s. Yowza.

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

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    This is the base piece of the mount which attaches to the back of the block. As you can clearly see, it's a modified stock piece.

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    From there, there is another piece which holds the motor mount. I'm sure you can see the mating piece on the K frame in some of my earlier photos of the bare engine bay.

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    Here is the bracket on the trans which attaches to the mount hoop with the two lower bolts.

    - - - Updated - - -

    ETA: That lower ear of the trans is sandwiched in between the modified stock piece, and the outer ear of the hoop at the bottom where there isn't a bolt in the first picture.

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    This is cool stuff! I have not seen these parts before

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    interesting. I assume it works well
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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    Thx for the pix. You learn something new every day.

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    Wowsers! Pretty cool!

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    yeah .. WOW!!
    it's a lot more structure than I expected

    I like the relocation to apparently being directly in line with the front mount too

    re engineered as a flat motor plate sandwiched between the block and bellhousing would eliminate all that structure's width .. with the exception of the mount insert(s) front and rear and some welded on half round stiffening ribs (?)

    I've gotta ask, what does the doohickey on the crossmember looks like that receives the mount ?

    somehow I'm expecting something else of a "collassas" ..now

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    Rear mount - Brian, great job !!
    Similar has been achieved with a Neon side aluminum mount in that location but that looks awesome !!
    When done correctly the front mount can be eliminated !!
    You are rock'n

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    I'll get a picture of the K frame when I'm in the garage today. It's just two pieces of plate welded to the K frame. It's honestly very similar to how the front motor mount bolts in.

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    I put the "new" wiring harness in today. By in, I mean that it's dangling everywhere of course. Are there replacement clips available which will hold it along the firewall? I need to splice in some new turn signal sockets and running light sockets as those were the only things cut in the harness. The fusible links are pretty butchered, so I'll have to figure that out too. From there, I'll need to make a starter harness. I need to make an injector harness too, but that's easy as I've made several of them before.

    As for today's pics, here is the K frame showing the added bracketry to hold on the mount.
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    Also, here is a piece between the water pump housing and block that looks like it diverts the coolant toward the front of the block to the right. Is this a worth wile thing to have in there? I think I recall them being used on the TIII cars?
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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    The diverter plate is a T3 thing, if you use it be sure to add a washer/spacer the same thickess at the long through bolt/stud so the housing sits level otherwise it will crack.
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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    Cordes, was that diverter installed on an 8v car? I don't know if there is any evidence it would benefit them. Personally I would only run one on the TIII. But like 135sohc said, be sure to use a washer of equal thickness on the lower bolt so it's spaces the water pump out without binding it and possibly cracking the housing.

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    Thanks for that info guys. I will probably leave it out. I've never seen any other 8v person use one, and there are many who have run the cars pretty darn hard.

    I ordered up the stuff I need to make the injector wiring harness. Nothing like having less than two weeks to get it done. Yikes...

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    if that diverter plate was installed , I'd check both the long lower bolt for the fat extra washer and the flange at the top of the housing

    if no washer it might have been milled down some for the diverter plate's thickness

    - I don't see it hurting anything in the 8V - in fact I've been wanting to try one as it certainly looks like it would help things flow to the right >>>

    thanks for the K frame pic

    changing the starter looks like a chore .. now

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    That mount makes any sort of maintenance a real hassle. It really needs to be removed each time it's serviced.

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    Re: Csx vnt #42

    I now have a dash with everything needed to run the car hooked up with the exception of the column. No HVAC box in there at this time. I'm still waiting on a clutch to arrive, and then I'll be able to drop the engine in the car, run the lines for fuel, hook everything up and finally, terminate the cut sections of the wiring harness. Oh, and I'll need to make the injector wiring harness, alternator harness, and then hook up the IC piping. Plenty of time left.

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