Caliber vs all

[iTurbo]

Thanks. Most of the races have been on highways just outside of town and late at night. Not exactly safe, but I do try to keep the racing to more reasonable places/times.

When the car was stock, it would push about 12 psi of boost at WOT. With the Mopar Stage I, the throttle is a LOT more responsive (drive-by-wire), but could still be better. I also now see about 16 psi of boost at WOT. I also installed a set of 1-step cooler NGK Iridium spark plugs. Also, I always shut off the factory traction/stability control when racing, otherwise the boost and throttle gets cut pretty agressively when there is wheel spin. I have about 28k miles on the car now with the original Goodyear F1 tires. Doesn't seem to have any problem roasting the tires through 1st and 2nd gear despite being 27" diameter. It will spin a bit into 3rd if the road is too smooth as well. I have an ND Performance TCS system (aka driver mod) ready to install to help with launches.

Lately I've been spending most of my spare time working on old school turbo Mopars, so I haven't gotten around to modding the Caliber at all. I do kinda like the fact that it is still so quiet with the stock exhaust though.

[fleckster]

Out of curiosity, at what altitute are you guys running at in Wyoming? I know there are some places there up quite a bit and the N/A cars will fall off significantly more than a boosted car in the mountains. Just check out the videos of the Mexican turbo Mopar guys! That's why even Ma Mopar offered Turbo IIIs in more cars and offered turbo 2.4Ls in the Stratus and Cirrus sedans in the '90s. This could explain how some of the Camaros, GTOs, and Mustangs, etc. are easier than anticipated. (Not as must explaining the EVO/WRX cars but from what I've seen with them, their drivers usually aren't great and they don't pull as hard once the AWD isn't a factor when rolling or at speed already.

[iTurbo]

Elevation where I am here in Gillette WY is about 4550 ft.

[supercrackerbox]

That's getting up there a bit. I could tell my Daytona was breathing a bit harder when we went to the Black Hills and Devil's Tower this summer. I could only imagine the effect on some NA cars.

[turismolover22]

Does your caliber have vvt? I know that could make up quite a bit compared to the n-srt4

[jonnymopar]

I believe all Caliber SRTs got the 2.4L dual VVT turbo engine.

[thedon809]

All world engines use vvt with cam phasers. Except the new 2.4l tiger shark world engine which uses multiair.

[MILKCARTON]

That's getting up there a bit. I could tell my Daytona was breathing a bit harder when we went to the Black Hills and Devil's Tower this summer. I could only imagine the effect on some NA cars.

elevation has zero effect on turbo cars, ask anyone on here...............

[Reaper1]

elevation has zero effect on turbo cars, ask anyone on here...............

I disagree. Elevation WILL have an effect on turbo cars, just not as much.

[glhs0075]

I'm with Reaper1. I live an hour away from the Rocky Mountains, and I notice a difference when driving at high altitude.

[MILKCARTON]

I'm with Reaper1. I live an hour away from the Rocky Mountains, and I notice a difference when driving at high altitude.

I know......just most people on here will argue that it dont

[iTurbo]

I used to live in Laramie WY, which is at 7200 ft. I noticed a big time decrease in power. At WOT when under full boost, the difference may not have been as much. But just getting there took longer, and I would see less vacuum at idle even compared to Gillette at 4500 ft. The engine was downright sluggish and much less repsonsive at 7200 ft. My Shelby Lancer would only show about 12 in/hg vacuum at idle there and the boost/vac needle slower to respond to throttle changes.

[supercrackerbox]

We're at 1200 feet elevation give or take, and I know we found one spot on our trip that was listed as 6000 feet. I think it was in Custer State Park, or maybe around Jewel Cave. Either way, the Daytona was definately feeling it.

[johnl]

Good read Jeremy. The point about elevation isn't the effect on turbo cars, it's the effect on the NA cars. Long ago, in my GLHT, with four guys with their gear and 4 sets of skis on the roof, we seriously outran a Vette but that was at altitude, near the Big Bear ski area. Poor Chevy was wheezing.

[iTurbo]

Well it happened again! Beat another newer Mustang GT (2011-2014?) in the Caliber. This time it was from a dig. I had just left my apartment when a blacked-out GT turned out the McDonalds drive-thru and followed me out of town. I could see him getting on the throttle in my rear-view mirror in town, so I decided to see if he would follow on the highway going out. Sure enough he does and attempted a flyby in the other lane which I promptly put an end to. About a 1/2 mile up the road we get a red light together. I'm thinking, "Oh ---- I am toast now"!

I pulled up to the light just behind him and he actually rolled back so we were lined up and started revving a little. I shut the traction control off, and just tried as hard as I could not to spin. It must have worked because he never even got a fender on me. By the time I got to 3rd gear I was pulling away good enough that he gave up and didn't try again.

I'm just telling it like it happened. I don't know if the guy just couldn't drive or what and I know it doesn't make much sense. :shrug: The Mustang sure sounded good though!

[jackerman]

That is awesome, though the coyote is awesome i have seen people running mid 13s mostly 5spd so im not shocked at all. I wish i could say i have had the same luck. Im going low 13s and i get destroyed by all those but i havent lost to a honda yet and 2 were turbo. Good kills

[ATaylorRacing]

Pretty sure you haven't met this porky thing...I'm not like most Camaro owners...no mullet!

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[kuzman83]

I also own an 08 CSRT and it is an absolute blast. If I may offer a bit of advice, go with the Real Tune MS1K computer flash (www.realtune.com). It absolutely transformed my car into a totally different ride. I did a lot of reading up on it before I decided to have it done and I didn't quite believe the stories guys were telling about how much different the car was but they are true. Other supporting mods on my car are AGP front mount, full 3" exhaust with catless dp, k&n drop in, AGP adjustable wga, hallman MBC and a mopar blue plate bov noise maker.

As it sits now my car will fry the front tires from a third gear roll at 65mph with TC off. Not only does the flash give you more power, but it sets the "nanny" limit for torque production way higher. The stock computer and MS1 will start pulling throttle and timing if it feels like you are making too much power. This makes other mods useless because the computer won't ever let you see the full potential of the mod. Throttle response is much much much better, traction control is much less invasive, boost is nearly instant. It makes the car in stock form feel like a slug. If you have the scratch laying around to buy that computer I HIGHLY recommend it. I couldn't be happier with mine.

Congrats on the street action too btw, I believe every bit of it.

[supercrackerbox]

How did the MS1K affect your fuel mileage? Which version did you get?

[kuzman83]

Fuel mileage did go up slightly, I get right around 33-34 highway between 65-70mph. I got version 3.