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    Cruise control installation

    I emailed FWDperformance about if they could point me in the right direction for cruise control installation. I never heard back from them (no big deal), so any know or recommend any place. I am replacing my engine in my 89' Daytona Shelby and wanted that to be part of the gig. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks,

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    All of the wiring should be there. You'll need the stalk which will plug in under the dash to an existing plug and the same with the servo under the hood. It should be pretty straight forward really.

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Aside from having an ECU that supports CC, it can all be added latter and much cheaper than paying someone else.

    It doesn't need to be done at the time of engine instal.

    Id suggest going to a pick your part type place and removing the needed pieces yourself, mainly so you can see how it is supposed to go, take pictures, notes, etc.

    IIRC, the actuator and attaching bracket go under the battery tray (2-3 bolts), and some wiring to plug into the existing harness on the car... I don't recall if the connector is taped up inside the harness or if the plug is just "hanging around"... The other, and possibly most involved piece of the puzzle is installing the cruise control lever onto the column. It's not too difficult really, but if you want to "cheat" you could pull a column/wheel of the correct color and just swap the whole thing in! They are easily installed/removed and normally don't cost very much at a non-California pick your part type JY!

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Yeah my car never had CC as an option, but I do have a ECU stage 5 from FWDperformance, so that should work. Also, good to know it doesn't have to be done with engine swap. Thank you gents for the info.

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Quote Originally Posted by kvnndvn View Post
    Yeah my car never had CC as an option, but I do have a ECU stage 5 from FWDperformance, so that should work. Also, good to know it doesn't have to be done with engine swap. Thank you gents for the info.

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    I will have to find a place where I can attain a throttle body cable bracket, thanks for the heads up.

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanmanČ View Post
    You'll have to ask Cindy if its turned "ON" in the cal.

    You'll also need the throttle body cable bracket.
    Actualy, CC can't be turned 'off' in the cal. For the SMEC, there's a possibility that the CC hardware is missing form the power board.
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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelGame View Post
    Actualy, CC can't be turned 'off' in the cal. For the SMEC, there's a possibility that the CC hardware is missing form the power board.
    How do they do it in the S60 cal?
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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanmanČ View Post
    How do they do it in the S60 cal?
    I believe they used the cruise input for the switchable timing table.

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Again, if anyone knows where I can go to purchase a cruise control actuator, and whatever else I need please let me know. I have purchased the CC stalk from Napa already. Thanks

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Salvage Yard. Those parts are not going to be had in the aftermarket, and probably discontinued at the dealer. The actuator is pretty common on these cars though. Almost every one of these cars I see in the salvage yard around here has cruise.

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Yeah, they are pretty plentiful at the JY. Since the servo isn't body specific you can pull on off of just about any of the cars. I'm pretty sure the connector was fairly similar if not the same from 89ish to 94. I would just take any servo you can from a KGP body car and get the connector and pig tail.

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    IIRC '87 - '89 TII cars had a special bracket (4324053) that mounted the actuator under the battery tray and had a shorter cable (4458443) to clear the IC piping (TI's won't work). Arizona parts may have a cable left, the brackets are JY only. '90+ mounted on the strut tower and are all the same (no special bracket or cable).
    I would try and find the '90+ actuator and modify your wiring harness to reach up to the strut tower.

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Yes my 89 is under the batt tray, and my 91 is in the driver side strut tower. And the servo looks different. I think the plug was different too.
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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Since your vehicle didn't have CC to begin with, check your brake switch. It needs to be a six wire switch. I have found that some auto non-CC vehicles (89 Shadow in my case) came with only a 4 wire brake switch. All aftermarket brake switches are 6 wire or cruise enabled. As previously stated not all SMEC's are cruise enabled. When I added cruise to my 89 Shadow, I mounted it at the drivers strut like they did in later years. IMO a much better place for it. It gets it out of the way of tranny cables and intercooler piping.
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    Re: Cruise control installation

    And also MP computers had a warning that cruise control wasn't working as its a race car, who uses cruise,

    Pretty sure I have a TB bracket, I know I have the servo but its the battery mounted one.
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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanmanČ View Post
    And also MP computers had a warning that cruise control wasn't working as its a race car, who uses cruise,
    That's true, but it was just to CYA when they reprogrammed a computer that didn't have the hardware needed, after a few people got irate that their new, cool, upgrade just made useless a few hundred dollar option on their new car!

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    this maybe a dumb question is the actuator and servo the same thing?

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    Re: Cruise control installation

    Yes.

    And you can add aftermarket cruise very easily too.
    Mini has an Audiovox cruise control and it works very well for a vacuum unit.
    I've also installed and used a Rostra electronic cruise with great sucess in my old Evo.
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    Re: Cruise control installation

    thanks for the reply Wheming, I'm currently deployed so I'm trying to accumulate all parts needed. I purchased the cruise control stalk through napa, the actuator and bracket. I know I need to check the brake switch when I get home. I drive a good distance to my job, and cruise will be a nice luxery.

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