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    Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    Anybody running a bolt pattern swop? Why did you do it? How did you do it? What wheels are you running? Lets see it!
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    I'm planning a bolt patten swap on my van. 5x100 to 5x114.3. Couple of reasons, one being the AWD rear axle that I'm going to use is big bolt pattern already, second reason is big bolt pattern hub bearings are half the price of 5x100 ones. So the plans are 11in front brakes off newer van with 5x114.3 pattern with car struts, then in the rear I'll use the awd axle with the stock rear springs and suspension to match the drop in the front.
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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    I am running 5x114.3 on my 89 caravan. It had 5x100. If you are doing this to a van, It is a bolt on, just get spindles, calpiers, rotors and hub assembly from another van. Actuially you can just buy new wheel hub assemblies and rotors. The rear requires the hub and new drums. It is a bolt on. The larger front brakes do stop better. There is no reason to swap to 4x100 and parts will be hard to get since they are only on 84 / 85 vans and early cars. There is a pretty good selection of wheels for the 5x114.3 pattern. Mine were on a family members RX-8


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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by turbo84voyager View Post
    I am running 5x114.3 on my 89 caravan. It had 5x100. If you are doing this to a van, It is a bolt on, just get spindles, calpiers, rotors and hub assembly from another van. Actuially you can just buy new wheel hub assemblies and rotors. The rear requires the hub and new drums. It is a bolt on. The larger front brakes do stop better. There is no reason to swap to 4x100 and parts will be hard to get since they are only on 84 / 85 vans and early cars. There is a pretty good selection of wheels for the 5x114.3 pattern. Mine were on a family members RX-8


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    Yep, get the knuckles etc from a 89+ Grand Caravan or swap to the 2nd gen stuff.

    I have some large fairly new bolt in wheel bearings and also the rear drums and hubs if you need parts.
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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    Yeah, 5x114 wheel selection is awesome. And I'm talking USED cheap wheel selection. Same for 4x100. But I know for new ones its probably the same story.
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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    I'm looking into converting my Shelby Lancer to 5x114.3 for wheel choices. Seems the front is a bolt-in affair [the large brakes are a bonus], the rear is whats' going to be a pain.

    I was thinking of using the later P-body knuckles up front for the roll center correction [lower ball joint attachment], the Caravan stuff should bolt right on I assume, since they both use bolt-in bearing assemblies? For the rear I may just grab the complete spindle assembly off a GTC LeBaron or Daytona just to mess with and see if I can re-drill, as I'd rather not screw up Shelby stuff and keep the car a roller.

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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    Howabout caravan hubs in the rear with intrepid rotors.
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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    I think I'll attempt to explore that option as well. I work at a wrecking yard with all these cars available, and am off Tuesdays - guess I know where I'll be haha.

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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daviticus View Post
    I'm looking into converting my Shelby Lancer to 5x114.3 for wheel choices. Seems the front is a bolt-in affair [the large brakes are a bonus], the rear is whats' going to be a pain.

    I was thinking of using the later P-body knuckles up front for the roll center correction [lower ball joint attachment], the Caravan stuff should bolt right on I assume, since they both use bolt-in bearing assemblies? For the rear I may just grab the complete spindle assembly off a GTC LeBaron or Daytona just to mess with and see if I can re-drill, as I'd rather not screw up Shelby stuff and keep the car a roller.
    Don't use van knuckles, your turning radius will increase and you'll end up doing a 10 point u-turn.
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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    Well let's see...

    On my 89 Aries at various points i had the 89 5x114.3 setup and the later 91-up 5x114.3 setup, and the back i took 10.5" solid disc setup and redrilled the hubs and rotors for 5x114.3.

    On my 90 caravan i have 91-up 5x114.3 in front, and 5x114.3 massive drum brakes in back because it's an AWD axle.

    On my 84 Executive Sedan was 4x100, i used 90 Caravan 5x100 front brakes, and ~93 caravan 5x100 drums (still the only person to put van drums on a car axle that i know of).

    On my 82 Lebaron, which is 4x100, im putting 90 Dynasty front 5x100 setup and 89 Daytona ES 5x100 rear discs.

    On my 95 Neon which is 5x100, im putting 82 Lebaron 4x100 front setup on it (which requires 2g neon axles), and may convert the back to k-car style bolt-on rear hubs by cutting off the factory one which is part of the spindle. I may or may not.. But it will be 4x100 swapped back there whichever way i go.

    So i have done fair amount of bolt pattern swaps and im in the process of doing more!

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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanmanČ View Post
    Don't use van knuckles, your turning radius will increase and you'll end up doing a 10 point u-turn.
    Right, that's why I plan to use the P-body Shadow knuckles with the Caravan bearings/rotors. I should be able to find a setup that works before I pay for anything, since I have access to all the cars in the yard and can bolt everything together.

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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    John Trotter is. Check out his build thread to see how he went to 114 from 100.

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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    I want to go to the 5x114.3 (basically 5x4.5), but the rear brakes are my hold-up. I want to keep my 11" vented rears. I haven't looked, but I don't know of any of our cars that have vented rear discs in that bolt pattern with the right dimensions. Anybody know of options for this?
    Last edited by Vigo; 04-25-2013 at 12:53 AM. Reason: typo

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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    I converted 5x100 10" solid discs to 5x114.3 for my aries; the same procedure would work for the vented discs. I used a 5x114.3 rotor with a hubcentric ring on the hub along with some transfer punches to get my pattern down, then just drilled new holes and pressed studs into the new holes. I dont have 200 mph ambitions like you but ive had the car above 100 with no issues. I think as long as you are using a hub-centric ring with your wheels you will be fine even for high speeds.

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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    Yeah, that would work! LOL. I actually thought of drilling, but I didn't think about the hubcentric thing. The other part of me was hoping there was something newer out that used the same size or similar size vented rotor with internal parking brake that I could simply buy (maybe even cheaper OR find upgrades for).

    Thanks for the info!

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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    i run 2 different offsets 5x100 to 5x114, 1" and 5x120 2" to support corvette rims w/ 245's and 275's on my srt4..
    yep, they both track highway ruts
    here is a picture of the 275x17


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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by fixit View Post
    i run 2 different offsets 5x100 to 5x114, 1" and 5x120 2" to support corvette rims w/ 245's and 275's on my srt4..
    yep, they both track highway ruts
    here is a picture of the 275x17
    OK...this is confusing. I know the GM pattern is 5x4.5 (5x114.3).

    Offset is how much the wheel center is spaced out from the back edge of the wheel.

    Obviously you have to run spacers to run those wheels. Are you saying one side of the car is running 1" and the other 2" front to back, or...???

    Where did 5x100 and 5x120 (which I don't think I've heard of) come into play with these wheels?

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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    gm pattern is 4x4.75" or 5x120. looks to use 2"spacers to use the corvette rims (lots of offset on the corvette wheels) and 1" ones to use 5x114.3 rims with probably less offset.

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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by shayne View Post
    gm pattern is 4x4.75" or 5x120. looks to use 2"spacers to use the corvette rims (lots of offset on the corvette wheels) and 1" ones to use 5x114.3 rims with probably less offset.
    Ok...I did get the bolt pattern wrong. Sorry.

    So, is he using bolt pattern adapters to run the different bolt patterns or what? I don't see how you can run 2 bolt patterns on the same hub without using some sort of adapter.

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    Re: Whos running a bolt pattern swap? 5x114? 4x100? etc?

    yup, i take it as he is using spacers/adaptors to use the wheels he likes.

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