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    Anyone have access to alldata ?

    need diagrams for the bulkhead connectors on 2 cars for an engine swap, i know its not mopar related but any help would be great

    1984 Pontiac sunbird j2000 1.8l non-turbo

    1986 Pontiac Grand Am 2.5l Tbi

    ive put the 2.5 5speed from the grand am into my sunbird wagon and have some pins that don't line up, engine seems like it will start just haven't gone any further since pretty much just the lights work, i can post pics from the project if anyone is interested

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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    All I have been able to find so far is the computer pinout, which is exactly the same for both cars.


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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    thanks for looking, the connector is on the driver side firewall, its connects the engine harness to the dash, computer side is seems fine since it plugs directly to the engine harness

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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    I have access to GM service info online, but they only have bulletins available for cars that old, sorry.

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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    thanks for looking

    these are the plugs


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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    bump, still need the diagrams, anyone with alldata or equivalent any info you can get will be greatly appreciated

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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    I have mitchell and it has no diagrams other than wiring diagrams. no connector views or anything.
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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    thanks for checking, i guess there just isn't much out there left for these cars

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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    i have alldata. do you have any idea what the number is on those connectors? e.g. early 4.0 jeep bulkhead connectors were called "c101" by chrysler.

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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    i'm not sure what there called but there the only 3 connections between the engine bay and dash, where would i find the numbers ?

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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    Noooooooooo!!!!!!!

    This is natures way of telling you you should be putting a quad-4 in it

    Unless you got hold of a Cosworth head for it, in which case, carry on...
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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    just to get it to drive again would be good if i wanted to drive a fast car i'll just drive my csx i'm fine with it being slow

    i did get it running a few moths back using the entire dash harness from the other car but i'd rather convert the original so everything lines up

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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    i'm not sure what there called but there the only 3 connections between the engine bay and dash, where would i find the numbers ?
    Actually, i think yours is also referred to as a C101 based on the list of connectors i have on my screen. I'll do some more digging. I have the same picture of the two connectors posted above, so i assume you only need the big square connector's pinout? Also, is that plugging into the back of the fuse block?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior222 View Post
    Noooooooooo!!!!!!!

    This is natures way of telling you you should be putting a quad-4 in it

    Unless you got hold of a Cosworth head for it, in which case, carry on...
    I like both ideas. Quad-4 would be much easier to come by though. I've done some research on those and i have to say it added one more small reason to the short list of things i like about GM.

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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    the big square one comes from the back of the fuse box( drivers side) and plugs into the engine harness at the firewall, that is the one i need the most
    the other two are located in the passenger side of the car near the computer, i think the may be for the heater/ac , they also plug into the engine harness

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    Re: Anyone have access to alldata ?

    ok. it actually looks quite similar to the one on my jeep and its c101 on both of them. i'll see what i can dig up there.

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