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    Re: Wanting opinions

    Trade you for a running 3.0 5-spd project If it was me, I'd keep it and finish fixing it and making it run.
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    i really think that this ^ and others that said as much is probably the right answer. bring it to the pnw and get it running, you have a fellow 3l nut working for the same employer so, you have a great resource for help/ inspiration right there. plus then you can get it running and convince brent to come along with his car and both of you bring your cars to b.c for some fun. i like to see your cars in person, and i think you may like to see mine too i guess.

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    Most definitely want to hang out more with fellow TM'rs!! Whether we all have cars there or not!

    The more I keep thinking about it, the more I do want to keep it. Man, this is a hard decision!!

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    If I get it, I'll have it running in a month. Then how silly will you feel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    If I get it, I'll have it running in a month. Then how silly will you feel?
    Running, I can easily agree with that. Driving...I think there is more to do than a month can hold. Seriously...this car has sat since 2004 in my yard. Before then it sat something like 4-5 years in Rick's yard! It needs a LOT of work before I'd trust it enough to make a trip to the grocery store, much less a pass down the strip at over 100mph!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper1 View Post
    Running, I can easily agree with that. Driving...I think there is more to do than a month can hold. Seriously...this car has sat since 2004 in my yard. Before then it sat something like 4-5 years in Rick's yard! It needs a LOT of work before I'd trust it enough to make a trip to the grocery store, much less a pass down the strip at over 100mph!
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    Well that jinxed it

    It's real variable with me, some days it takes 30 minutes to install a trans, some days it takes 12 hours to remove a rad fan :-/
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    I'll let you drop it off at my house so you don't have this great weight on your shoulders. I'm here to you you out, buddy!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    Apparently you do not know me
    No, not that well anyway. Man, if I had the money back in the day, it would have been driving around in no time!! I had the time to work on it!!

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior222 View Post
    Well that jinxed it

    It's real variable with me, some days it takes 30 minutes to install a trans, some days it takes 12 hours to remove a rad fan :-/
    That's called the beer to work ratio! You need to balance the equation more to the work side!

    Quote Originally Posted by black86glhs View Post
    I'll let you drop it off at my house so you don't have this great weight on your shoulders. I'm here to you you out, buddy!!!!
    Thanks...but unless I can teleport it, then that's very unlikely! LOL

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    I have some extra harnesses in storage that you could easily take one, buy a cheap ms2, build a harness and small fuse panel with one of my 3.0 harnesses. Next time you make a trip down there, wire up power and ground and have your MS2 already loaded up with a basic tune and the car should be drivable. That would increase the value and you can ditch that haltech. The super super ease might also make it more interesting to keep. I don't know if you saw my "first start" video of MS. I basically sat the MSII on the intake manifold, connected some wires, started engine. MSII can also trigger your nitrous, pull timing on spray, change fueling on spray, something that would really change the functionality of that whole setup.

    I know you have to be doing a lot of sitting around these days so soldering together a kit would also be easy to justify financially. I have cars you can test your setup on intake manifold style. Don't be prudish and just put some rubber hose on the fuel lines for now. I'll buy it for you if I have to :P
    I have tried to avoid getting in over my head on pickiness with projects but your educational background makes that very hard for you to make reasonable hobby goals. Engineers can't even get into how well they want their car to perform because there is an angle on a part that has to be dealt with first.
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    ^^^^ Tru dat, perfectionism is a time vampire. I used to get more hung up on that, now I'm more git'r'done and 95% is good enough, (Where having it to FSM spec would be 90% and the last 10% the improvements)
    DD1: '02 T&C Ltd, 3.8 AWD. DD2: '15 Versa Note SV, replacing.. DDx: '14 Versa Note SV << freshly killded :( ....... Projects: '88 Voyager 3.0, Auto with shift kit, timing advance, walker sound FX muffler on 15" pumpers wrapped in 215/65/R15 H rated Nexens.... and a '95 phord escort wagon PnP head << Both may need to go :( ..... I like 3.0s ... so??? ... stop looking at me like I've got two heads!

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    That's what I'm saying, I'll run a new line from the tank in about 20 minutes, check the brakes out, fire it up and I'm driving
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    I have some extra harnesses in storage that you could easily take one, buy a cheap ms2, build a harness and small fuse panel with one of my 3.0 harnesses. Next time you make a trip down there, wire up power and ground and have your MS2 already loaded up with a basic tune and the car should be drivable. That would increase the value and you can ditch that haltech. The super super ease might also make it more interesting to keep. I don't know if you saw my "first start" video of MS. I basically sat the MSII on the intake manifold, connected some wires, started engine. MSII can also trigger your nitrous, pull timing on spray, change fueling on spray, something that would really change the functionality of that whole setup.

    I know you have to be doing a lot of sitting around these days so soldering together a kit would also be easy to justify financially. I have cars you can test your setup on intake manifold style. Don't be prudish and just put some rubber hose on the fuel lines for now. I'll buy it for you if I have to :P
    I have tried to avoid getting in over my head on pickiness with projects but your educational background makes that very hard for you to make reasonable hobby goals. Engineers can't even get into how well they want their car to perform because there is an angle on a part that has to be dealt with first.
    +1 to that
    ps i will be rolling coal through your area in the next couple weeks on my way to a dog show in portland mabey hook up for some dinner some were you 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    I have some extra harnesses in storage that you could easily take one, buy a cheap ms2, build a harness and small fuse panel with one of my 3.0 harnesses. Next time you make a trip down there, wire up power and ground and have your MS2 already loaded up with a basic tune and the car should be drivable. That would increase the value and you can ditch that haltech. The super super ease might also make it more interesting to keep. I don't know if you saw my "first start" video of MS. I basically sat the MSII on the intake manifold, connected some wires, started engine. MSII can also trigger your nitrous, pull timing on spray, change fueling on spray, something that would really change the functionality of that whole setup.

    I know you have to be doing a lot of sitting around these days so soldering together a kit would also be easy to justify financially. I have cars you can test your setup on intake manifold style. Don't be prudish and just put some rubber hose on the fuel lines for now. I'll buy it for you if I have to :P
    I have tried to avoid getting in over my head on pickiness with projects but your educational background makes that very hard for you to make reasonable hobby goals. Engineers can't even get into how well they want their car to perform because there is an angle on a part that has to be dealt with first.
    Sounds like a plan. I'd love to get it running! Then I could finally drive it! Now...where to find an MS2 set-up for the Mistu 3.0 SOHC!

    BTW, you hit the nail on the head about not finishing up stuff due to one stupid thing that hardly anybody on the planet would notice!

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior222 View Post
    ^^^^ Tru dat, perfectionism is a time vampire. I used to get more hung up on that, now I'm more git'r'done and 95% is good enough, (Where having it to FSM spec would be 90% and the last 10% the improvements)
    I'm very OCD when it comes to things, so for me, unless it's 100%, it's 0% for the most part.

    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    That's what I'm saying, I'll run a new line from the tank in about 20 minutes, check the brakes out, fire it up and I'm driving
    I actually have a full 3/8 aluminum fuel line bent up for the car from front to the tank. I just never got it in the car because I didn't want to section it to get it in, so that means pulling the engine.

    Quote Originally Posted by bakes View Post
    +1 to that
    ps i will be rolling coal through your area in the next couple weeks on my way to a dog show in portland mabey hook up for some dinner some were you 2
    I'm down! Let me know when and we can figure out the rest. Email me: grimmreaper90@gmail.com I'm REALLY wanting to hook up with some more TM people again!

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    the MS is the easy part.

    you need something with two or more injector drivers and only one ignition driver. You can email DIY autotune and ask if you need anything specific. When i bought mine, i just told them what it is going to be used on and that i want them to set it up for that. I only got charged like $20 for them to have it set up, i cant emagine it was much that they had to do.

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    I just found that MS has Chrysler 3.0 specific kits! Still either $400-600 depending on what you get, but it supposed to be just put it together and go!

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    careful with the kit, alot of the stuff you dont need.. unless you want it all.

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    I'm quite sure that car can use it all
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    last i checked it included ls wasted spark ignition and stuff

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    I'm sure it can probably use most everything. COP or CNP ignition would be sweet, but for now...get it running would be the goal. Going fast is a long way down the road simply because the engine isn't even broken in and the whole car needs to be shaken down before it really is pushed..at leat IMHO, just to make sure it is safe. Remember, it's been sitting a LONG time!

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