So, as some of you may know I have owned Rick Lozier's 12 second '91 Daytona for a while now. Unfortunately I never really got the chance to bring it back to life. I bought the car as a non-runner because of a fuel leak due to the ignorance of the shop that was doing the work for him. I honestly thought I was going to be able to have the car driving for a few hundred bucks. It never happened and it's been sitting in one yard or another since then.
I still like the car, and still have interest in it, but reality is starting to finally set in that it might possibly be in my best interests to let it go.
To get an idea of the car when I first got it, go here (you may have to log in to see the pictures and some of the pictures no longer work): http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f11...ion-beast.html
The good:
-The chassis is very low miles and dead nuts straight. Last I knew it was absolutely rust free. It's showing roughly either 51 or 61,000miles on the odometer.
-It has Koni's all the way around on it
-The springs up front are trimmed Eibach's. The rears at one time were Suspension Techniques, but I can't remember right now what they are currently
-It does roll, and the brakes do work (probably need a flush REALLY bad) I had repacked the rear bearing when I first got it. (it is an original 15" disc/drum car, but it had the HD drums in the back, so they are the larger 220mm ones)
-I installed a brand new 255 pump in the tank, and the tank was cleaned out and has been bone dry since then. There is a supplemental MSD pump on the car too that was used when the N2O was being used.
-It has aluminum Kirkey racing seats in it. The driver's one needs to have the thigh support on the left repaired
-It has an AutoPower bolt in roll bar in it.
-The interior is/was pretty darn clean (gray)
-The paint isn't horrible...it needs to be buffed really well and the area around the NACA duct in the hood needs to be re-worked. It is currently all black
-It does have racing harnesses in it, but they will only be good for show as they are out of date.
-The stereo speakers were left in the car by Rick. They are Boston Acustics in the front and rear from what I remember being told. They were a very high end line from them when he built the car as it originally had a HUGE stereo in it. The fronts are components set in custom door panels. I don't know what the rears are, but I remember him saying MANY years ago that just because the factory used an oval speaker doesn't mean it produces the best sound. My guess is that there are adapter plates and round speakers back there. I never looked. The tweaters for the components are aimed at the windshield, which makes perfect sense actually. I removed the Apline head unit and signal processor when I first got the car. Unfortunately both got stolen when I had a bunch of other stuff disappear as well.These speakers would HAVE to be run by amps. All the power supply and electrical stuff to run the amps was removed long ago by me. I was going to take the stereo out. There are NO subs.
-For being an ES, it is a lower end ES car. It has manual windows and for some reason I'm remembering it wasn't optioned with fog lights (although it has some "vintage" PIAA's on it, but I think they may be toast by now)
-It does have a strut tower brace
The mechanicals:
-The engine is a fresh rebuild...supposedly around only 500 miles on it all under 3000rpm due to tuning.
-The block is a true Mitsu 3.0 out of a Diamante if memory serves.
-It is supposed to have the RPW 3.2 stroker crank kit in it and forged pistons. Remember, this car was set-up for N2O, so compression is higher than what most would use for turbo...I think it's 10:1, but I'm not 100% on that. (unfortunately I've never heard it run.
-The cams are custom grinds and the specs can be found pretty easily. I know Brent has them and I've posted them twice I think, along with the cam card.
-It has the RPW adjustable timing gears on it.
-The heads were ported by Tachyon Racing in Jacksonville, Fl IIRC. I do not have any numbers on them.
-No A/C
-The headers are still on the car. They are a VERY unique design, but use standard gaskets. They are Jet-Hot coated silver, but I think they may be due to be recoated. I never tried to clean them, so it very well could just be dirt.
-The transmission is a performance rebuild of the A604.
-The axles are heavy duty aftermarket pieces.
-The engine management system is a Haltech EK6 stand alone mounted on the trans tunnel in the car. I do not have the software, cables, or the instructions for it. Supposedly the tune in it right now will run the engine well up to 3000. After that basically I was told it is a clean slate.
-The direct port system is still on the car. It has the solenoids for fuel, N2O, and purge. The system was supposedly tuned for a 175 shot. The feed lines and inline N2O filter are still in the car and it has 2 cradles for 10# bottles. I sold one bottle and the other got stolen. It is my belief that blow-down tubes need to be installed as I don't think I recall seeing any
-There is an aftermarket FPR on it as well. I have pictures of how it was set-up for reference.
-It's Got an MSD ignition box and Magnecor wires
-It also has a Jacobs Electronics Nitrous System controller in it. (I don't think these are made anymore, but IMHO was the best out there)
-The oil filter is remote mounted
The "eh":
-It no longer has a full set of matching wheels. The 17" 5-spokes were sold many years ago. It currently has 3 "vintage" 16x8 (I *think*) ADR wheels on it and 1 polished 16" Ninja. The ADR wheels require a special lug nut tool (which I have) as well as a special "cap tool", which I also have. Of course the tires are SHOT.
-The whole car is filthy from just sitting.
-As mentioned earlier the hood needs to be reworked around the NACA duct.
-I think it bottomed out on the front air dam, too, as it shows signs of wear, but it's not cracked that I remember.
-Because it used to have a huge stereo in it, the whole rear of the car is covered in Dynamat. That stuff is HEAVY, and I would remove it if the car were to become a race car.
-The engine hasn't been turned over since just before I bought it. They tried to drive it up onto the truck, but like I said, it had a fuel leak, so that was no-go. I have never attempted to run it, and I've never even turned it over.
-If you want to use harnesses you will need to replace the ones in the car. They are out of date for current safety rules.
-The engine used to be so clean you could eat off it. There was a lot of raw aluminum that was polished. With it sitting, of course its oxidized. It certainly can be brought back, but it needs to have a polishing wheel taken to it for sure.
-I was told it had a 60mm T-body on it, but that is NOT true. It's probably a 52mm, though there is a SMALL chance it could be a 58, but there is no outside work done to the intake manifold to support that it because if they put a 58 on there, and wanted to port match it, that requires modification to the manifold to add meat to it so the hole can be made large enough.
-It has a narrow band O2 gauge in a single pillar pod, but it was never hooked up. It has 3 other gauges in the center stack. I know one is oil pressure for sure, I can't remember the other two, I do know I had the intent of getting N2O pressure gauges to add to the car...I never did.
The car has a good title, but for obvious reasons will NEVER pass SMOG, so to those that applies to, this would be purely a race car, or a starting point for something else.
So, after all of that, this is where I am. If I were to post it for sale I'd be asking $1500. Considering the parts on the car, and the overall very good condition of the chassis I think that's fair.
So, what do you all think? #1, should I sell it? #2, would my asking price be in the ballpark. #3, if I DO decide to sell it, is there ANYONE in the community that would buy it? I kinda want to keep it "in the family" so to speak simply because of the car's history. I know that should I sell it, I have no say in what happens to it, but I'd like it to go to a home where the person would bring the car back to life. I've never been a fan of N2O, but I was going to run it in this car just to see what it was like and because it was built around that power adder. Afterwards I was going to swap it over to turbo. I've toyed with the idea of a 5-speed swap, but I honestly don't think it would really do much for this car besides add another component that can break and is hard to find parts for. I was going to keep the 604 in it and use a stand-alone controller for it as well as add an LSD.
I believe with the right tuning, some weight reduction of crap that isn't needed in the car, slicks, and a properly working N2O system this car could EASILY be in the LOW 11's, if not knocking on the 10's depending on whether the output of the engine is what it was claimed to be (around 400hp on spray, around 225 NA....that was the older 3.0, NOT the 3.2 that's in it now).
Anyway...what do you all think?
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Originally Posted by Sundance 6g72
