Maserati block..Whats different?

[Reaper1]

HEY THANKS Reap, I went through most of your build, Talk about turning a sow's ear into a silk purse! Nice work. Did you have any problem fitting those Mopar Performance caps? (the end ones) I have a set and they are not as precise as the ProGrams.

Thanks! I'd REALLY like to have a nicely dressed crank like the one you are doing in it as well. I can't complain, that is a Masi 8V 2.2 crank, so it was in an auto car. NO wear on the thrust clearance. Care to divulge how much that cost you?

I entrusted Rick Diogo with choosing the shop that he has to all of his work (which is top notch from what I can). I honestly don'k know if there was any trouble with them or not. Rick had this set, and because I'm building an engine I want to make around 600whp with, we decided to use them. I know the shop recorded the clearance values and they are in the profile folder for the engine.

Not to get off track, but in my next iteration of this engine I intend to have a crank done up like yours using Honda rod journal sizes on it. Of course the required rods would have to go along with it. I want to either sleeve the block with thick sleeves so I can use stock diameter pistons, or put studs in the block wall to help stabilize the cylinder walls. I don't know how well a semi-filled block would work for my application, so that is not really a valid option. I'd LOVE to use 2.5 TD, but finding a belt to run the engine has proven to be problematic. I suppose at that point I could have custom crank, cam, and intermediate shaft gears to run whatever type of common belt I could find to work.

At that point the last things I can think of to help the bottom end is a fully custom crank bedplate and possibly chry-treating it. At that point I think at least 800hp could be handled by the bottom end easily.

[iTurbo]

I'm still working on getting block pics. It has been super cold here (4'F now) and we got a bunch of snow too. Plus my Dad rolled his Ford Ranger and I've been searching hi and lo for a replacement truck for him on my time off. Thankfully he was wearing his seat belt and is doing OK.

Here are some pics of the Masi 16v CB block with caps that I have already taken. When I got it a couple years ago, it came with a 2.0L crank in a Mopar Performance box, 6 Cunningham rods, and 6 Arias +.020 pistons. It was going to be used by a guy in Boise, ID for the 'streamliner' race car the previous owner had built for land speed racing at Bonneville.

[thedon809]

That sucks. It's 70 out right now over here.

[lengel]

Looks like we need some billet aluminum blocks with ductile iron sleeles!

[iTurbo]

If that were possible I would buy one. At least one, especially if you've got anything to do with it Adam.

[RoadWarrior222]

Well it's kinda unpossible for DD, but if you want top fuel methanol cooled drag blocks then go for it..

But, you could use maybe use 3D printing to create casting cores these days...

[Reaper1]

You could do a custom billet block for a DD. It's just going to be EXPENSIVE!! I'd bet $20,000 just for a block that can work in that sort of application. I would bet on it being able to be done as a multi-piece block that uses bolts that go all the way through it to hold the head to the "midblock" and the bedplate. There would be a lot of engineering to go into that to make it work well.

[RoadWarrior222]

Urgh, multi piece... yah, you could go back to 1910 when they used to make motors like that...

However, with modern materials, it would be cool to figure out a "lego" engine system where you slot modules of cylinders and crank case together in any configuration you damn well like

[zin]

If we're going with 3-d printed castings, then lets do a Mopar version of an Offy! Cylinder head is cast as part of the block! No worries about head gaskets there!

Mike

[shackwrrr]

Billet blocks with cooling systems are usually open deck. This would be pretty easy since ours are already considered partial open deck. Use ductile iron wet sleeves that use an o-ring to seal and o-rings for the cooling system.

[Reaper1]

The Offy idea is kind of where I was going. Remember, those things could churn out 1200hp in Indy car!