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    Manual Transmission fluid type

    I recently bought a 1990 Dodge Caravan Base with the 2.5 EFI motor and a 5 speed manual trans.
    My questions is what type of fluid should I run in it ?
    I want to change it asap.
    Question two is how much fluid does it take to fill, once the fluid is drained ?

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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    I use straight 5W30. IIRC the FSM suggest 2.3 quarts, but I usually jack up the driver's side of the car a ways and fill it until it runs out of the fill hole.

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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    5w30, but some of us prefer Synchromesh or Redline MTL.

    IF you don't install a drain plug, you'll probably get 1-1.5L litres out.
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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    You mean motor oil in the transmission ?

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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG PSI View Post
    You mean motor oil in the transmission ?
    Yes, that was factory fill, just like the later tranny's used ATF.

    I like MTL or Synchromesh as its synthetic, better wear properties but don't use synthetic engine oil, its too slick and the synchro's can't speed up properly.
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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Yes, that was factory fill, just like the later tranny's used ATF.

    I like MTL or Synchromesh as its synthetic, better wear properties but don't use synthetic engine oil, its too slick and the synchro's can't speed up properly.
    Some of them did come with auto trans fluid in them.

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    Yep. I run 5W-30 in my manual. Works great. Buy 3 quarts.

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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    Some of them did come with auto trans fluid in them.
    I've never seen that yet,
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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    I've never seen that yet,
    I think it was the earlier transmissions.

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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    I think it was the earlier transmissions.
    I know the older auto's had a separate sump and used gear oil but so far, all i've seen is engine oil, but then, haven't seen too many older cars.
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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    I use this stuff called gorilla juice... It's made my lazar smith. Lazarsmith.com. It was specially formulated for the G56 trans used in dodge pickups w/diesels which is factory filled with ATF. I was running synchromesh in my G56 till I found this stuff and it's great... I had some left over so I through it in the omni and it worked great... Just my two cents

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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    I've never seen that yet,
    Really? I've seen ATF and gear lube in A555...

    Some people like high ZDDP oil in their transmission. Mobil High Mileage oil have higher ZDDP than most other oil out there.

    http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf

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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    Think in '88 factory switched from ATF to 5W30. Have an '87 A555 with ATF in it that I pulled from a Shelby, and an '88 that had 5W30 pulled from an '88 Shelby.

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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    After going thru a pile of bearings in my 555 with 5w30, I switched to straight SAE30 non detergent. Supposedly non detergent oil had rediculous film strength. 4 years so far, no troubles.
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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    Quote Originally Posted by Gearhead24-7 View Post
    After going thru a pile of bearings in my 555 with 5w30, I switched to straight SAE30 non detergent. Supposedly non detergent oil had rediculous film strength. 4 years so far, no troubles.
    I will try straight weight 30 then.....
    Thanks guys as always.

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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    If you plan to drive it in the winter I would not use SAE30, the "5w" cold weight of the 5w30 will help a ton in colder weather. I had 10w40 in a A520 once and you had to warm the car up before it would shift... sucked

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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    Quote Originally Posted by Gearhead24-7 View Post
    After going thru a pile of bearings in my 555 with 5w30, I switched to straight SAE30 non detergent. Supposedly non detergent oil had rediculous film strength. 4 years so far, no troubles.
    That's why we switch to synchromesh or MTL.
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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    That's why we switch to synchromesh or MTL.
    So do you have a link to the syncromesh fluid ?

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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG PSI View Post
    So do you have a link to the syncromesh fluid ?
    Google or

    http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1114224
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    Re: Manual Transmission fluid type

    I still have the owners manual for my 89 Lancer Shelby TII. Says to put 5w-30 in it. I am running plain ol' 30 weight cause that is what the guy at pep boys showed on the computer.

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