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    Confused with MPTune

    Ive just started getting into doing my own cals. Downloaded MPTune and have been playing around with the program a little to get used to everything. One thing I cant seem to figure out is what to do when the calibration is done and ready to be written to the chip. How do I compile the calibration into a .bin file? And how do I get the lst file to import into MPScan?

    If someone could help me out with this stuff I would really appreciate it

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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    You don't compile into a bin file, that's the difference between MPtune and Dcal, you simply save the cal, compile it then hit the burn or load file button.
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Oh ok, makes a little more sense now.. How do you get the "lst" file to import into MPScan?

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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984rampage View Post
    Oh ok, makes a little more sense now.. How do you get the "lst" file to import into MPScan?
    That I don't know.
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    You don't compile into a bin file, that's the difference between MPtune and Dcal, you simply save the cal, compile it then hit the burn or load file button.
    I think you mean you don't edit a bin file. Though, you can actually do that, too, with MP Tune.
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelGame View Post
    I think you mean you don't edit a bin file. Though, you can actually do that, too, with MP Tune.
    Maybe I got tpl and bin files mixed up, lol. I thought Dcal modded the bin file and MP modded the tpl file?
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    it does, but you have to open the bin file to flash it to the ECU.

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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Maybe I got tpl and bin files mixed up, lol. I thought Dcal modded the bin file and MP modded the tpl file?
    It can actually edit both, but the preferred method is editing the .tpl and re-building the cal.

    In short, D-Cal edits the .bin file directly using a .tbl file to define where the table data is. The .bin file is the file that is loaded onto the chip and used by the ECU.

    MP Tune edits the .tpl file (calibration data only and definitions), then compiles with the .asm file (assembly source code) to create a new .bin file + a .mpt file. You can then edit the .bin directly using the .mpt. However, the changes to the .bin+.mpt will not be saved back to the .tpl. Which is why editing the .tpl is the preferred way.
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    So where do you get the .asm file to compile with the .bin file?

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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelGame View Post
    It can actually edit both, but the preferred method is editing the .tpl and re-building the cal.

    In short, D-Cal edits the .bin file directly using a .tbl file to define where the table data is. The .bin file is the file that is loaded onto the chip and used by the ECU.

    MP Tune edits the .tpl file (calibration data only and definitions), then compiles with the .asm file (assembly source code) to create a new .bin file + a .mpt file. You can then edit the .bin directly using the .mpt. However, the changes to the .bin+.mpt will not be saved back to the .tpl. Which is why editing the .tpl is the preferred way.
    Ok, thought that's what I remembered but you did it with more detail,

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984rampage
    So where do you get the .asm file to compile with the .bin file?
    Its in Rob's templates.
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984rampage View Post
    So where do you get the .asm file to compile with the .bin file?
    It comes in the same .zip as the Turbonator codes.
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984rampage View Post
    ... And how do I get the lst file to import into MPScan?

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    here is a video i did some time back. see if that helps you with mpscan.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNRqCiro-lE
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Yes that helps quite a bit! When I go to compile the cal in MPTune, it doesnt work. A box pops up and sais to select an assembly file of which there is nothing to choose from. In your video when you hit compile a black screen comes up for a second and then the tune is separated into the different files. That doesnt happen for me.

    Any advice?

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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Actually I think Ive got it figured out. Will report back later

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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Did you select what template to use!
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Did you select what template to use!
    What do you mean?

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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984rampage View Post
    What do you mean?

    When you start a new cal, you have to pick what template you use, IE 2.2 TII, or 2.5 t1, auto, manual etc.
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984rampage View Post
    Yes that helps quite a bit! When I go to compile the cal in MPTune, it doesnt work. A box pops up and sais to select an assembly file of which there is nothing to choose from. In your video when you hit compile a black screen comes up for a second and then the tune is separated into the different files. That doesnt happen for me.

    Any advice?
    did you copy the template you are working on into a different directory (or save it to a different directory)? if so you need to also copy the corresponding .asm file. by default it looks for an asm file in the current directory. when you get the screen that asks for an asm file you could browse for it (if its in another directory), but its much easier to just copy it in with the templates.
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by wowzer View Post
    did you copy the template you are working on into a different directory (or save it to a different directory)? if so you need to also copy the corresponding .asm file. by default it looks for an asm file in the current directory. when you get the screen that asks for an asm file you could browse for it (if its in another directory), but its much easier to just copy it in with the templates.
    I had that problem too, seemed to crop up in MpTune but not MPTuner.
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    Re: Confused with MPTune

    Quote Originally Posted by wowzer View Post
    did you copy the template you are working on into a different directory (or save it to a different directory)? if so you need to also copy the corresponding .asm file. by default it looks for an asm file in the current directory. when you get the screen that asks for an asm file you could browse for it (if its in another directory), but its much easier to just copy it in with the templates.
    Yep, that turned out to be my issue. Had the .asm file somewhere else.

    Thanks for the help guys

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