Should TU reproduce 005 and 006 style MP head gaskets?

[Xtrempickup]

Mopar no longer makes or has an MP 005 or 006 head gaskets. These were a nice cheaper alternative to Cometic and less failures than Felpro. TU said with a commitment of 500, this could happen. SO can we get a concensus? He said that 2 hgs to a member basically which is relatively nothing as i myself own 4 TMs and most people own at least 2.

[GLHNSLHT2]

I'll buy 5 of the 006's

[Xtrempickup]

Im gonna say id take at least 2- 005s as thats what i needed most recently.

[zin]

Price is the deciding factor, they were pretty cheap when available, so if pricing is in the same range, it seems like a no brainer. I'm going to want a few (3-5).

Mike

[shmedley]

I'd be in for at least 5 of the 005's

[ShelGame]

Ditto. At OEM-ish price I'd be in for 5, just to have them. I only have 1 backup right now.

[Dr. Johny Dodge]

why not reproduce the better gasket ?

- fel pro print-a-seal was way way better than any mopar gasket when I could still get em

hell mine even held for a year (6-8 months) without torqueing to yield the bolts (forgot)
and that old log motor was run very hard every day at 12#'s

only reason to pull the head was the spun (again) rod bearings

- and , the fel pro print-a-seals don't rot like the mopar (dog poo) ones do

back when I could get the print-a-seal gaskets they were all I'd use - always thought the mopar ones were junk

imagine my surprise 4 years ago when I got on line and found all youse guys love the mopar gaskets

[135sohc]

The latest and greatest chrysler head gaskets before they stopped making them was a print-o-seal type gasket.

[looneytuner]

I'll do 7 since that's how many cars I have.

[Vigo]

I dont care if they make more or not. Pat ran 11s on a new-style Felpro gasket without realizing it, if i remember correctly. Good enough.

[88C/S]

I could use 2 005s and 2 006s.

[Chris W]

Price is the deciding factor, they were pretty cheap when available, so if pricing is in the same range, it seems like a no brainer. I'm going to want a few (3-5).

Mike

Regarding price, keep in mind that Chrysler made thousands of the 005, 006, 007, 008, etc. head gaskets for the 2.2 and 2.5 applications. They probably purchased millions of other gaskets from the same supplier for both new and older engine platforms. Chrysler's discount level is going to be considerably better then our request for 500-1000 Head Gaskets to be made. The 006 went for about $32. each when last offered from Mopar Performance. If all goes well we hope to be in the low $40. range, but, that could change.

There are many hurdles in bringing any new product to fruition. Locating a quality vendor who is actually willing to manufacture a one time short run of anything is our biggest challenge. In most cases we are just happy when they accept our order. Getting them to manufacture that item at a competitive price is our second challenge and making sure they adhere to ALL of our specs is the third. In the past we have invested a considerable amount of our money with vendors to produce products which never even made it to production. Whether the samples didn't meet our standards, the final price was too high or there was a lack of demand.... ie.

I dont care if they make more or not. Pat ran 11s on a new-style Felpro gasket without realizing it, if i remember correctly. Good enough.

Ultimately it has to work for everyone otherwise we pull the plug on it and take the R & D loss. Custom parts also require lengthy production times as most of the companies are squeezing our order in between the big runs. It's not always the case but just wanted to bring that up as it often can be if the timing of our order is off.

We spoke with a company at SEMA last year that seemed agreeable to a run of 500-1000 head gaskets. The price point was also competitive and the quality of their products were impressive. If we see enough interest generated in this thread we would consider re-approaching the manufacturer to coordinate a run of the 006s. We chose this gasket because the 005-008 and the 16-valve gaskets can also be made from the 006 with slight modifications. We are contemplating having them manufactured with an inverted ring so they could be used in O-Ringed block applications. This would eliminate the necessity to use copper head gaskets which have been known to leak.

Big thanks to the OP for starting this thread. We were just speaking with Lotashelbys yesterday regarding reproducing these. If we can find ways of making these head gaskets better while also maintaining the price point we are all for it. It would be great to see constructive feedback from members regarding everything including design variations.

Thanks!

Chris-TU

[Xtrempickup]

Im going to post this on TD also so members not on TM can have a voice.

[135sohc]

pending an approximate idea of the selling price I would take 3-4. Thanks

[Xtrempickup]

I hope this doesnt just die out. Where are all the other members on here?

[Chris W]

I hope this doesnt just die out. Where are all the other members on here?

Unfortunately that is what occurred with the TIII oversize valves Group Buy we tried to organize a few years ago.

Chris-TU

[dwh4784]

I would buy 2. Going to be hard to get a good estimate on interest for 500+ but more power to you guys.

[GLHT_yeah_baby!]

I would buy 2 or 3 myself.

[Xtrempickup]

Understandable Chris, but TIIIs alone are a smaller group than all 2.2/ 2.5 guys that could run these gaskets

[Chris W]

Understandable Chris, but TIIIs alone are a smaller group than all 2.2/ 2.5 guys that could run these gaskets

Maybe so, but, since each set is purchased containing 16 valves it will add up to 500-1000 pieces alot quicker then gaskets.

Chris-TU