Took my transmission apart today after having to get it towed to Ian's place last week. Draw your own conclusions. I know what happened.
Took my transmission apart today after having to get it towed to Ian's place last week. Draw your own conclusions. I know what happened.
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I think-
1) the puck arm broke off and jammed itself and hence the resulting carnage-the material holding the puck on looks very very thin?
Where did you get the clutch again?
1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
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When you really look at that clutch disc, there isn't a whole lot of meat holding those four spokes to the center section, is there?
Originally Posted by MiniMopar
Thats what I thought,
Funny thing is, I saw the clutch at my shop and never noticed how thin it was, then again, I was busy running around as usual.
1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.
Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info
Super60 roller cams or custom/billet cams. Link to info
I'd hate to see what would happen to a 400+ hp car the clutch is intended to be installed in...
Ian
`88 Mercedes-Benz 300E - The daily
`92 Spirit ES - 2.5TI/523 swapped
`89 Lancer Shelby - 2.5TI/413 stock
`87 Shelby Charger - 2.2 with a few things done
`79 Bronco 4x4 - Everyone needs a 4x4
`76 Duster - Future big block stroker
www.FWDMopars.com
Originally Posted by Mopar_Nutz
Nothing... try 450 whp. held fine... that's with 500+ ft lbs of torque. Been there done that..;..
Ken Adler....
Cars, A few (9)
His car makes a 1/3rd of that?Originally Posted by GLHSKEN
1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.
Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info
Super60 roller cams or custom/billet cams. Link to info
After a close up inspection this is what was determined.
No foreign objects entered the transmission.
The pressure plate and flywheel were not damaged until after the clutch broke and only need resurfacing to be reused.
The rivets and material holding the pucks are strong enough and weren't the problem.
The clutch has some wear, but no signs of heat damage.
There is a hairline crack on one of the other ears for the pucks.
I'm not going to get a ceramic again. It was nice on the highway, but I don't want another one breaking under my 170hp after 3 weeks. There is noticeable wear on the flywheel and pressure plate, which leads me to think that these clutches will eat through them.
I guess I'm taking suggestions for a new one. Maybe Kevlar?
Phone Chris, he will get you what you need, we had a nice chat yesterday so he DOES answer his phone or call you back right away, except on Sunday,
1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.
Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info
Super60 roller cams or custom/billet cams. Link to info
Picture the carnage of 500 lbs of torque ripping through that clutch. Oh baby would that be a showOriginally Posted by GLHSKEN
Ian
`88 Mercedes-Benz 300E - The daily
`92 Spirit ES - 2.5TI/523 swapped
`89 Lancer Shelby - 2.5TI/413 stock
`87 Shelby Charger - 2.2 with a few things done
`79 Bronco 4x4 - Everyone needs a 4x4
`76 Duster - Future big block stroker
www.FWDMopars.com
Maybe I'll take pics of my 4-puck carnage, took out the flywheel and itself. . .trans is perfect, luckily!
So I'm not the only one eh.
170hp?
Just get the TII disc and be done with.
TIV disc wasn't good enough and slips if you gun it hard. If I do any upgrades it will be done, and I hate the soft feel.
Fortunatly, the case looks to have survived. I would not go with a 4 puck in that car either. I did not remember that you had installed that one. I had one just like that in my shadow when it was ICed with a HAH running 20+lbs. and it was just fine.
I would think that a T2/T3 clutch would do the job, but the VNTs do put out the torque a little sooner than the rest, so I might call chris and see if he can get you a clutch with a little stronger pressure plate and a T2 disk. Seems like that might be the ticket.
Originally Posted by Mopar_Nutz
Oh god!!! please no!!!! My 4 puck has been a trooper and It's taken 75% of the abuse Reeves has
Ken Adler....
Cars, A few (9)
This clutch must be a cheap Taiwanese knock off,
1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.
Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info
Super60 roller cams or custom/billet cams. Link to info