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    85 glh

    This isn't much of a project thread as the car runs an drive. Just keeping up with the progress and improvement I made to it.

    Carroll Shelby inspired car. GLH stands for Goes Like Hell.

    Goal for this car is for it to be a nice comfortable daily driver with a/c and somewhat good gas mileage. Looks isn't an requirement. It weights 2500lbs with a driver, ran a best of 14.5 at 97mph at only 12 psi. The setup should be good for around 24 psi with pump gas. 2.5L with a T04E 50 trim and Cosworth .48 turbine housing. Positive boost pressure comes in around 1700rpm, spool faster than my 850 with a 15G!

    Reason why the intercooler is in the front is due to I want to have a/c. There is just no space inside the engine compartment for an intercooler, with the a/c condenser. And yes, I got many questions regarding to what it is, and lots of stares.

    Not going to paint the intercooler black, nor make grille for it. No point, paint on the rest of the car looks like crap anyways. Beside, the intercooler sticks too far out.












    At 12psi

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    Re: 85 glh

    What wheels are those?

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    Re: 85 glh

    Made by PRIME, 15 x 7

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    Re: 85 glh

    Quote Originally Posted by tryingbe View Post
    Made by PRIME, 15 x 7
    Thanks. They look really cool. Very period.

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    Re: 85 glh

    Diggin' the digital dash and 12 button traveler, awesome
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    Re: 85 glh

    Joined a club.


    Faster 1/4 mile time


    Autocross runs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdkpn...ature=youtu.be
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfUEJRGG6XY



    Upgraded to an all aluminum radiator, Volvo fan, 3 horns setup, 2nd BOV (one before and one after the intercooler), Fuel filter as my oil catch can, and Mann as my oil filter.





    Made the car quieter and cooler.




    Parts that broke.

    Crap clutch with no spring retain lip failed.




    (Turn volume done)
    Rebuilt a/c compressor that died itself.
    http://www.thelostartof.net/tryingbe...project/ac.mp4

    Worn out clutch bushings that lead to worn out clutch pedal, which leads to broke clutch adjuster. No pictures for that one yet.

    Couple broken cv boots, autozone life time warranty came to the rescue!

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    Re: 85 glh

    That car is making serious power to run 102 @ a 14.28
    You'd be deep in the 13's with slicks, like really deep, I assume you're not running sticky tires with the 2.3 60'

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    Sweet. Looks like it Runs like my old setup. I ran 14.0@104 with the same turbo but a .63 exhaust housing.

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    Re: 85 glh

    Been a long while since I update this thread.

    Since then,

    Long block came from a 89 CSX #186
    89 common block 2.2L, o-ringed
    Forward motion sold forged pistons (assuming)
    stock forged rods
    stock forged crank
    Fel-Pro head gasket
    Five new Fel-Pro head bolts, three used Fel-Pro head bolts, two used mopar bolts. All torque to at least 90lb ft when doing the final 90 degree turn. http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...=1#post1092898
    Forward motion ported head with +1mm valves (assuming)
    88 2.2 TBI roller camshaft, pulled from junkyard


    Asa/acannell's BMF intake manifold with Reflect-A-GOLD heat reflective tape

    moparzrule/TU ported exhaust manifold, Ceramic coated ported
    T04E 50 trim with stage III turbine wheel and T3 flange .63 turbine housing, Ceramic coated ported
    ATP ultimate wastegate housing, Ceramic coated ported


    Custom actuator rod

    TBI valve cover for better PCV system with Toyota Supra all metal PCV valve 12204-46020, http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...rbo-PCV-valves

    Autolite AR51 plugs, gaped at .023
    HDI Turbo Electronic Boost Controller
    FMIC
    Talon BOV, modified for high boost
    Rich Bryant's wire and cap, http://rbryant.freeshell.org/msd_products.htm

    Cooling,
    Griffin all Aluminum radiator 2 78170H
    Custom upper hose
    TI Daytona lower hose
    CSR In-Line Radiator Filler
    18 psi cap
    Custom overflow tank
    Asa/acannell's 4th cylinder plate, routed to waterpump housing
    Lower port under thermostat housing deleted

    Custom fan shroud
    Volvo 940 electronic fan with its relay
    Stainless braided coolant hose, with silicone hose.

    A/C,
    Late model a/c compressor and bracket, http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f8/...ml#post3551994

    Custom hoses
    Universal a/c condenser

    Electronics,
    PC680 battery
    Upgrade to 87 TII wiring spec
    Socket 87 LM
    Moates Ostrich emulator
    1/0 cable for alternator/battery/ground/starter
    120 amp alternator

    Rich Bryant's alternator bracket, http://rbryant.freeshell.org/misc_products.htm
    Fusible links delete/added fuse box, http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...-links-no-more
    Upgrade to late model oil pressure sending unit.


    Fuel
    DW300 pump in tank, http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...and-non-L-body
    3/8 metal tube feed (5/16 can make plenty of power)
    10 gauge fuel pump wiring upgrade, http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...GLH&highlight=
    75 lbs Delphi injectors


    Exhaust, http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...d!!&highlight=
    Custom 3 inch downpipe to tail pipe



    Suspension, http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...r-improvements
    FWD Koni with custom camber plates and other improve parts
    Poly bushings all around
    Poly bushings front and rear sway bars
    Don't box rear subframe, http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...why&highlight=

    Interior,
    87-89 Daytona/Le Baron digital cluster
    87-89 12 button navigator
    Saturn Ion Redline Recaro seats, http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...mni&highlight=

    Wrapped my Omni's steering wheel, http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...steering-wheel


    Brake,
    Minivan front calipers
    89+ 10 inch solid disc upgrade
    Bigger master cylinder and correct proportional valve
    Braid brake hose

    Wheels, http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...GLH&highlight=
    PRIME 15 x 7 wheels, 13 lbs


    Transmission + clutch
    A555 with A520 ring gear and intermediate shaft and OBX LSD.
    TU budget flywheel

    TU Ultimate 4 puck 232mm unsprung Feramic clutch with black plate, http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...=1#post1081670

    Push Pull custom shifter cables


    I probably forgot a lot of things I have on it.


    Running E85, got 290whp and 290 wtq at 20.5 psi

    Here's how to read the graphs,

    Red lines are baseline run and blue lines are power run.

    From the top to bottom.

    Torque number (measured in FT LB) vs RPM (dotted line)
    Horse Power numbers vs RPM (solid line)
    Boost (measure in PSI) vs PRM (solid line)
    Air Fuel Ratio vs RPM (dotted line)



    Last edited by tryingbe; 03-12-2016 at 02:43 PM.

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    Re: 85 glh

    Interesting turbo response and top end power from the turbine / exhaust combo. Am I reading the information correctly in stating going WOT at 2500 rpms, it takes until 4000 rpms to reach 20 psi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow88 View Post
    Am I reading the information correctly in stating going WOT at 2500 rpms, it takes until 4000 rpms to reach 20 psi?
    Looks like that, doesn't it? I still have not driven on the street with 20psi. The dyno operator was the first to hit 20psi in my current setup.

    I had a 2.5L setup in the same car, with full 14psi boost by 2600 RPM and I absolutely HATED it. http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...l=1#post834608

    Yes, massive torque peak happens around 2800-3000rpm, but the torque number fails very sharply, and peak hp happens somewhere in 3600-4000rpm range. Great for wheel spins and 0-40mph, but nothing when you downshift to 3rd and try to pass a car on the highway. The engine probably made 300 lb ft of torque, and 200hp, if that. Torque steer was horrible. I did manage a 14.2 at 102mph at like 20psi.

    My new 2.2L setup is great, I already autocross with it. It doesn't feel under power at mid rpm and it will give you the power you need at upper rpm. Pulling away form a stop is great, it just get more power as you pick up speed vs wheel spin then nothing.

    I love the new setup in my car.

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    Re: 85 glh

    It sounds like a pretty street able set up. Good to hear you like it.

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    Re: 85 glh

    Wow, thanks for all of that info. That turbo spools up pretty decently for a stg. III wheel and I bet you could cut it down some more with tuning.

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    Re: 85 glh

    What cam gear are you using? Stock cam timing or adjusted somehow?

    Dont push the red button.You hear me?

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    Re: 85 glh

    In to follow this build, I'm digging the intercooler setup! Haha

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    Re: 85 glh

    Quote Originally Posted by Vigo View Post
    What cam gear are you using? Stock cam timing or adjusted somehow?




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    Re: 85 glh

    Noce, I'm assuming street tires? Any plans to run some stickier tires?

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    Re: 85 glh

    That's about right for the Stage III wheel, my van with either the 8 valve or 16 valve is in full song around the 4K area with the same turbo. I didn't like the lag due to the auto and heavy van but it was still a fun combo when moving.
    1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
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    Re: 85 glh

    Quote Originally Posted by tryingbe View Post
    Looks like that, doesn't it? I still have not driven on the street with 20psi. The dyno operator was the first to hit 20psi in my current setup.

    I had a 2.5L setup in the same car, with full 14psi boost by 2600 RPM and I absolutely HATED it. http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...l=1#post834608

    Yes, massive torque peak happens around 2800-3000rpm, but the torque number fails very sharply, and peak hp happens somewhere in 3600-4000rpm range. Great for wheel spins and 0-40mph, but nothing when you downshift to 3rd and try to pass a car on the highway. The engine probably made 300 lb ft of torque, and 200hp, if that. Torque steer was horrible. I did manage a 14.2 at 102mph at like 20psi.

    My new 2.2L setup is great, I already autocross with it. It doesn't feel under power at mid rpm and it will give you the power you need at upper rpm. Pulling away form a stop is great, it just get more power as you pick up speed vs wheel spin then nothing.

    I love the new setup in my car.
    My stock-head/turbo 2.5 was like that, ran out of breath around 5k. It pulled hard till around 4500 though, I spent a LOT of time tweaking the cal. It did run 80mph in the 8th though in a 3300# race weight Lebaron... I had no trouble with it pulling around traffic either, I just short shifted and used the torque. On the interstate I really never even needed to drop out of 5th gear unless I really needed to move or was below 60mph and needed to pass someone quickly.

    I do feel that a 2.2 is better for a light car, as it is more linear in power output. The 2.5 torque comes on violently around 2800rpm or so...

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    Re: 85 glh

    Quote Originally Posted by Force Fed Mopar View Post
    My stock-head/turbo 2.5 was like that, ran out of breath around 5k.
    The Reliant ran quickest on the track when shifted at 5000 rpm with a 2.5, that is why I was "destroking" to a 2.2 engine for the next engine package..


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