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    axles, what works best for us?

    I had the usual intermidiate shaft failure recently and im looking into the unequal length setup. It's for my 88 csxt which has an OBX LSD and A555 trans. Which unequal shaft should I buy? I currently have two equal length axles im running and they are custom built "race" axles. Wasnt sure if there was a certain axle that would be best used with the stronger driver side axle installed. The car will be somewhere under the 400hp mark on the street.

    and yes I was reading through the hundreds of other axle threads, lolz. Just wanted to make sure I had the most up to date information before buying something.

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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    driveshaft shop makes really nice stuff, its what I'm running along with a few others here.
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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Joe View Post
    driveshaft shop makes really nice stuff, its what I'm running along with a few others here.
    Found their site, didnt find an axle selection from their list. Did you have to ship them an axle for them to copy?

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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    Make a phone call, and you'll probably find they have what you want.

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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    they used to have it on the drop down menu but all they have is the new stuff listed... just call them and tell them what you want and they'll make you brand new axles built, depending on how much you want to spend.
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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    Stockers, you want the R/T and Dynasty axles, large 3 joint inner tripot, or the very large, heavy round inner joints.

    I've am using the large round inners on mine, equal length and same setup as 2003,
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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    Find a really late 4 cylinder spirit/shadow ect. Those have the HD saginaw axles in them for the most part if your looking for a junkyard price part. otherwise DSS is the other option as mentioned. Remaned axles are a waste of time and the new chinese axles from the parts stores are going to be hit or miss.

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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    On a side note, does anyone know if the saginaw inner joint from the larger cars will work on the 88-90 Lbody auto axle? Take place of the piece of crap tin can inner on the Lbody shaft? I never had a chance to check it out.
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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    I use stock Saginaw axles and only one breakage so far though I'm sure that will change some day. Just take note that there are two differen diameters for the passenger side. Not all shadows have the larger size but I found most spirits do. Just make sure you measure it first.

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    I use oreilly 1990 automatic Omni lifetime warranty axles. I've been through 4 driver side ones and one passenger side. All have been manufacture defects. This last set here has lasted the longest. Its not a big deal to me to swap some axles out. Especially if they are exchanged no questions asked lol.

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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowv4l View Post
    Just wanted to make sure I had the most up to date information before buying something.
    Yah, you tend to need up to the second info an all aftermarket these days, what was good 6 months ago might have gone Chinese since.
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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    I was probably going to grab something from Rockauto, is that a no no?

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    looks like the EMPI axles offered at Rockauto have the Saginaw axles http://www.showmetheparts.com/EMPI/
    I think i'll give it a shot for 60 bucks.

    ---------- Post added at 07:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:59 PM ----------

    Looks like they all share the same part number as the 94 spirit I looked under

    CHRYSLER IMPERIAL 93-90 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    CHRYSLER LEBARON 95-87 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    CHRYSLER NEW YORKER 93-87 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    DODGE 600 88-87 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    DODGE ARIES 89-87 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    DODGE DAYTONA 93-87 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    DODGE DYNASTY 93-88 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    DODGE LANCER 89-87 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    DODGE SHADOW 94-87 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    DODGE SPIRIT 95-89 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    PLYMOUTH ACCLAIM 95-89 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    PLYMOUTH CARAVELLE 88-87 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    PLYMOUTH RELIANT 89-87 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT
    PLYMOUTH SUNDANCE 94-87 All- CV Joint Half Shaft - FRONT RIGHT

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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    Are they actual Saginaw axles made by Saginaw or "Saginaw" replacement axles as in "my car was originally equipped with Saginaw axles so these will fit?"

    The aftermarket parts manuals (like the Chilton's/Haynes manuals) specify whether it is a Saginaw, GKN or Citroen axle based on what model and year it is, so it may not be a ture Saginaw.

    From experience, the "lifetime warranty" aftermarket axles are not as good as a rebuilt stocker. Got a local axle shop that can hook you up?

    +1 to what was said about the larger tulip Dynasty axles.

    DriveShaft Shop? If there is enough interest, I can put together a Group Buy... I need to talk to them anyways about the one I think I broke.

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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    well..... I have 2 other shadows (93, 94) with original passenger side axles, maybe i can do a swap with one of these new axles I get. Or just look at them both to determine if they are the same or not. hmm......

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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    Has anyone consitantly broke stock axles? I've been on stockers for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow88 View Post
    Has anyone consitantly broke stock axles? I've been on stockers for a while.
    After you start making more than stock power, it can be an issue. If you apply full throttle while having the wheels turned a lot, it kills them faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow88 View Post
    Has anyone consitantly broke stock axles? I've been on stockers for a while.
    *knock on wood* I only broke one in my Shadow and it had many many hard runs on it, and the replacement did too.

    Several have run 10's on stock axles in cars, but most of those are lighter cars.

    Years ago in the Z, back when it was still a 2.2L just when it started running 11's I broke 2 axles back to back. One was a brand new Saginaw axle too. Heavy cars punish axles more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow88 View Post
    Has anyone consitantly broke stock axles? I've been on stockers for a while.
    Well it seems that when above 400HP or so, it's hard to blame car, driver, bad suspension setup etc for breaking them.... but it's possible that careful tweaking gets them to survive another 50HP or so, or the owner happens to get a pair that are particularly good, high end of tolerances sorta thing. But some folks have broken a lot of axles at way below those outputs, and it's very hard to say whether it's really crappy axles, or badly maintained suspension, or abuse.
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    Re: axles, what works best for us?

    It is a combo of everything.
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