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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Yep... That and the input shaft has to break off completely for the TC to come loose... then it has more surface area to not slice thru the bellhousing like a thin flywheel.
    The flex plate itself would have a lot less energy to give off I would think.

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    You guys have a good point. Maybe all I need is an SFI flexplate. If I am the only one interested in the 31TH version, then imma back out. The development for a low demand item would certainly be a loss.
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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    You guys have a good point. Maybe all I need is an SFI flexplate. If I am the only one interested in the 31TH version, then imma back out. The development for a low demand item would certainly be a loss.
    Overkill can't hurt in some cases if he is willing to make it big power guys should consider it. I didn't in any way want to discourage people from extra safety equipment.

    Worse yet I didn't mean to drive people away from a product. I wasn't thinking about that when I posted... <oops>.

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    1. glhs727 - 3 (need to check 413's) - (Hardware???)
    2. lengel - 1 - No timing window? - WITH hardware
    3. Turbo3Iroc - 1 - No timing window with hardware
    4. Onlooker - 1 - WITH Hardware
    5. 168glhs1986 - 1 - no hardware
    6. Pat - 2 - WITH Hardware
    7. 4 l-bodies - 1 - NO hardware
    8. BadAssPerformance - 2 - WITH Hardware
    9. mcsvt - 1- WITH hardware
    10. chilort - 1 WITH hardware but possibly no shipping
    11. contraption22 - 2.4/auto w/hardware
    12. T-Bohn wiz wit'
    13. 84omni -1- WITH hardware
    14. onerippinturbo2 -1- with hardware please provide paypal info
    15. rbryant -1- 2.4/568 (NO hardware, no timing window)
    16. tommy-1- 2.5/568 w/ hardware
    17. Shmedley-1- 2.2/555 WITH hardware
    18. Shadow-1- 2.2/568 With hardware and timing window
    Just realised I was Not on the list! Dah!

    ---------- Post added at 10:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:21 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Anyone who wants the A413 shield know anything different about the NHRA requirements?
    I thought I read somewhere that IF you have an A/M Tq convertor you needed one (transhield)?

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    I thought I read somewhere that IF you have an A/M Tq convertor you needed one (transhield)?
    Link?

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    2011 NHRA Rulebook General Regs

    2:14 TRANSMISSION, Automatic/NHRA-Accepted
    All cars running 10.99 (*6.99) seconds and quicker must have an
    NHRA-accepted locking-type dipstick on the transmission.
    Any non-OEM automatic floor-mounted automatic transmission
    shifter must be equipped with a spring-loaded positive reverse
    lockout device to prevent the shifter from accidentally being put into
    reverse gear. Functional neutral safety switch mandatory. All
    transmission lines must be metallic or high-pressure-type hose. All
    vehicles running quicker than 10.99 seconds (*6.99) or faster than
    135 mph (except some Stock and Super Stock classes as noted
    under Class Requirements) and using an automatic transmission
    must be equipped with a transmission shield meeting SFI Spec 4.1
    and labeled accordingly. (“Blanket”-type shield, appropriately
    labeled as meeting SFI Spec 4.1, permitted.) All non-blanket-type
    shields must incorporate two (or one, per manufacturer’s
    instructions) 3/4 x 1/8-inch straps that bolt to the shield on each
    side and pass under the transmission pan, or transmission pan
    must be labeled as meeting SFI Spec 4.1. Permitted in all classes
    where an automatic transmission is used.



    Comp, Super Comp, Super Gas, 9.99 or quicker E.T. cars, and 135-
    mph or faster E.T. cars using an automatic transmission, Lenco
    Drive, or BRT must be equipped with a flexplate meeting SFI Spec
    29.1 and covered by a flexplate shield meeting SFI Spec 30.1.

    Transmission that can utilize a high-gear transbrake must be
    supported by the use of two momentary buttons (one to arm the
    system, second as the main transbrake). Air shifter bottles must be
    stamped with DOT-1800 pound rating (minimum) and be securely
    mounted (i.e., no tie wraps or hose clamps).
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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    My bad, it was talking about A/M Converter Drives, Not A/M converters.

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    No offense at all taken if you do or don't want one for an auto. I was just feeling it out if I should make a 2nd model or not. It's not a HUGE deal....but I didn't want to go through the hassle of making a different model if no one wanted it.....

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Thanks for digging up the rule Mike. Did you find any rules on construction, like the MTX rules where it said "if not commercially available make it this thick and that wide?" I'm guessing it has to be wider than the MTX one so it can collect up the whole TC? Sounds like a different part for sure... Maybe one of the quick auto guys already has a A413 design that they would be willing to do a group buy on?

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    I would think on an auto you would want the shield to also go over the front planetary. I know just about nothing about the autos on these cars but on the 727 it is the front drum (IIRC) that comes apart in certain circumstances and causes a bad day. That failure mode may not even be possible here because it has something to do with the sprag failing and causing the drum to spin at a much higher speed than designed and throwing itself apart. I think they have worked to decrease this issue over the years.

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    1. glhs727 - 3 (need to check 413's) - (Hardware???)
    2. lengel - 1 - No timing window? - WITH hardware
    3. Turbo3Iroc - 1 - No timing window with hardware
    4. Onlooker - 1 - WITH Hardware
    5. 168glhs1986 - 1 - no hardware
    6. Pat - 2 - WITH Hardware
    7. 4 l-bodies - 1 - NO hardware
    8. BadAssPerformance - 2 - WITH Hardware
    9. mcsvt - 1- WITH hardware
    10. chilort - 1 WITH hardware but possibly no shipping
    11. contraption22 - 2.4/auto w/hardware
    12. T-Bohn wiz wit'
    13. 84omni -1- WITH hardware
    14. onerippinturbo2 -1- with hardware please provide paypal info
    15. rbryant -1- 2.4/568 (NO hardware, no timing window)
    16. tommy-1- 2.5/568 w/ hardware
    17. Shmedley-1- 2.2/555 WITH hardware
    18. Shadow-1- 2.2/568 With hardware and timing window
    19. Daver-1 - 2.2/568 with hardware and timing window

    Added myself for 1 with hardware and timing window.

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Added new people and updated PAID peoples. Please check the list in the first post to make sure your info is correct.

    Thanks,
    James

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    88 Shelby Z 13.5 - been in storage for 15 years
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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Updated people who have paid in the first post.

    James Reeves - Reeves Racing
    World's Fastest 8 Valve - 146.88 mph
    86 GLH-T 9.99 at 143.78 mph
    86 GLHS #169 Mom's - complete Super 60 car
    87 Shelby Z 14.16 Dad's - mostly stock, no sh*t!
    88 Shelby Z 13.5 - been in storage for 15 years
    03 SRT-4 12.24 Mom's
    07 Charger 5.7L 12.48 Dad's

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    1) glhs727 - 1 - Hardware???
    2) lengel - 1 - No timing window - WITH hardware - PAID
    3) Turbo3Iroc - 1 - No timing window - WITH hardware
    4) Onlooker - 1 - WITH Hardware - PAID
    5) 168glhs1986 - 1 - no hardware
    6) Pat - 2 - WITH hardware - PAID
    7) 4 l-bodies - 1 - NO hardware - PAID
    8) BadAssPerformance - 2 - WITH Hardware
    9) mcsvt - 1- WITH hardware - PAID
    10) chilort - 1 WITH hardware but no shipping - PAID
    11) contraption22 - 1 - WITH hardware
    12) T-Bohn - 1 - WITH hardware - PAID
    13) 84omni - 1 - WITH hardware - PAID
    14) onrippinturbo2 - 1 - WITH hardware
    15) rbryant - 1 - (NO hardware, no timing window) - PAID
    16) tommy - 1 - w/ hardware
    17) Shmedley - 1 - WITH hardware
    18) Shadow-1- With hardware and timing window - PAID
    19) Daver-1 - with hardware and timing window - PAID
    20)DOHCRT-1-No Hardware

    Added my name to the fun...


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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    1) glhs727 - 1 - Hardware???
    2) lengel - 1 - No timing window - WITH hardware - PAID
    3) Turbo3Iroc - 1 - No timing window - WITH hardware
    4) Onlooker - 1 - WITH Hardware - PAID
    5) 168glhs1986 - 1 - With Hardware - PAID
    6) Pat - 2 - WITH hardware - PAID
    7) 4 l-bodies - 1 - NO hardware - PAID
    8) BadAssPerformance - 2 - WITH Hardware
    9) mcsvt - 1- WITH hardware - PAID
    10) chilort - 1 WITH hardware but no shipping - PAID
    11) contraption22 - 1 - WITH hardware
    12) T-Bohn - 1 - WITH hardware - PAID
    13) 84omni - 1 - WITH hardware - PAID
    14) onrippinturbo2 - 1 - WITH hardware
    15) rbryant - 1 - (NO hardware, no timing window) - PAID
    16) tommy - 1 - w/ hardware
    17) Shmedley - 1 - WITH hardware
    18) Shadow-1- With hardware and timing window - PAID
    19) Daver-1 - with hardware and timing window - PAID
    20)DOHCRT-1-No Hardware

    Added mine with hardware and PAID, Thanks James.

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Updated paid peoples.

    James Reeves - Reeves Racing
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    86 GLH-T 9.99 at 143.78 mph
    86 GLHS #169 Mom's - complete Super 60 car
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    88 Shelby Z 13.5 - been in storage for 15 years
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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Updated PAID peoples.

    Material is on order....should be in today I think.

    James Reeves - Reeves Racing
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    86 GLH-T 9.99 at 143.78 mph
    86 GLHS #169 Mom's - complete Super 60 car
    87 Shelby Z 14.16 Dad's - mostly stock, no sh*t!
    88 Shelby Z 13.5 - been in storage for 15 years
    03 SRT-4 12.24 Mom's
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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Quote Originally Posted by Reeves View Post
    Here is the group buy on these scatter shields. This scatter shield is built per NHRA rules and it is mandatory per NHRA rules that you have it if you run faster than 11.50 (!)

    This scatter shield is the same I run on my OMNI. It has been tested to fit the 2.2L/2.5L engine family and A-520/A-555 and A-523/A-568.
    In it's current configuration, it WILL NOT fit a A-413. One mounting tab would need to be moved. You may also want a wider unit for an auto?
    It has not been physically tested to fit the T3 crank sensor, but from measurement testing, it should clear just fine.
    It has not been physically tested on a T3 STOCK intake and throttle body configuration, and there looks to be SOME CLEARANCE ISSUES. The throttle body may need to be flipped over or otherwise modified.

    This scatter shield includes a timing window cover. (2) bolts will need to be removed to take the cover off so you can see your stock trans timing window.

    The scatter shield will come to you unpainted. That way you can choose what color you want and if you want to paint it or get it powdercoated (or leave it bare and oily like mine is).

    Go here:
    http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...lds&highlight=

    Or here:
    http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...l=1#post844921

    For more info.

    Here is the original mock up:
    Attachment 36833

    Here it is on my OMNI:
    Attachment 36832

    Here is the pre-production weight.
    Attachment 36831

    Here's a shot of it on a A-568:
    Attachment 36839

    Here is a shot with the timing window cover removed:
    Attachment 37015

    Here is a shot of the hardware you'll receive if you buy the hardware option:
    Attachment 37016

    Price will be $150 shipped (shipping limited up to $20....more than that and you'll pay the difference).
    Hardware option will be an additional $20 and include all hardware necessary to install.

    Payment in full is expected if you want one. Cut-off date for the first group of scatter shields to be made is February 1st, 2012. After that, they may or may not be available, and the price will most likely go up, as we are only buying enough material for the group buy posted here.

    Post here and PM me for info on check, money order, or Paypal payments if you want one or more.


    Disclaimer:
    This is built to NHRA rules ONLY. It is in NO WAY guaranteed to save you or your car in the chance of a flywheel, clutch, flexplate, or torque convertor explosion. This will fit the above transmissions. It is NOT implied that it will fit your turbo, header, intercooler tubing combo, etc. Intercooler plumbing, radiator hoses, heater hoses, throttle bodies, intakes, etc, may need to be modified depending on your setup.

    Thanks guys for the interest and motivation to make more of these

    I'll be updating this orginal post with more fitment pictures soon. I'll be updating the thread with production pictures as production starts.

    Here's what I have so far. Make sure you see your name and correct info below.

    1) glhs727 - 1 - Hardware???
    2) lengel - 1 - No timing window - WITH hardware - PAID
    3) Turbo3Iroc - 1 - No timing window - WITH hardware - PAID
    4) Onlooker - 1 - WITH Hardware - PAID
    5) 168glhs1986 - 1 - WITH Hardware - PAID
    6) Pat - 2 - WITH hardware - PAID
    7) 4 l-bodies - 1 - NO hardware - PAID
    8) BadAssPerformance - 3 - WITH Hardware - PAID
    9) mcsvt - 1- WITH hardware - PAID
    10) chilort - 1 WITH hardware but no shipping - PAID
    11) contraption22 - 1 - WITH hardware
    12) T-Bohn - 1 - WITH hardware - PAID
    13) 84omni - 1 - WITH hardware - PAID
    14) onrippinturbo2 - 1 - WITH hardware - PAID
    15) rbryant - 1 - (NO hardware, no timing window) - PAID
    16) tommy - 1 - w/ hardware - PAID
    17) Shmedley - 1 - WITH hardware - PAID
    18) Shadow-1- With hardware and timing window - PAID
    19) Daver-1 - with hardware and timing window - PAID
    20) DOHCRT - 1 - No Hardware - PAID
    i dont know if i needed to say it or not, but i would like a timing window in mine as well, thanks james for going through the work to bring these to us!!!!

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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Quote Originally Posted by onerippinturbo2 View Post
    i dont know if i needed to say it or not, but i would like a timing window in mine as well, thanks james for going through the work to bring these to us!!!!
    Good point. Everyone please check the list at post #1 and make sure you are getting what you want. I have (3) with no timing window.

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    87 Shelby Z 14.16 Dad's - mostly stock, no sh*t!
    88 Shelby Z 13.5 - been in storage for 15 years
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    Re: Scatter Shield - Reeves Racing/Creative Fabrication

    Are these ready yet.....how about now? or now?

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