Team Shelby SCCA Charger #54

[vipernbox]

Update:

The following problems have been corrected on the #54 Team Shelby car.
Burnt wiring
poor module connections
poor injector connections
stuck injectors
Logic module connectors pins
mouse nest and "snack wiring" near the bulk-head connector
broken head bolt
blown head gasket
seized #4 spark plug
seized external fuel pump
vacuum harness

Now that its up and running, the mouse nest has been removed from the exhaust system.

Next step (when time permits): Body repair

Well.. One thing is for sure.. With only this information. If I didn't know it already I would be able to say with certainty you were working on a GLH or a SC..

[86seeS]

Hope to see this thing at sdac

[5DIGITS]

The driver's quarter doesn't look that bad.
I was able to fix this one:

I looked back and I never responded to tell you how nice that turned out.
You did a great job.
The issue with the team car is that they put a half gallon of mud over the damage to make it presentable.
So the pic doesn't do a good job showing how it truly looks.
I'll have a better idea what to do once I get through their 'plastic experiment'.

Again, nice job !

[Tbird232ci]

I really can't wait to see more of this car. I love race heritage.

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Well.. One thing is for sure.. With only this information. If I didn't know it already I would be able to say with certainty you were working on a GLH or a SC..

Shelby Charger

For as long as this was sitting, I am impressed with how it runs - as is.
All the 'cheater' parts have been put back on the car to try to retain originality but a few more 'tweaks' are needed to make it run aggresively, for what it is (T-I).
For example, I can see making the timer portion of the software work both manually and automatically, as a benefit.
These had a delayed higher performance mode so the vehicle would pass a post race tech inspection - this could now be selectable.

Thanks

[vipernbox]

Shelby Charger

For as long as this was sitting, I am impressed with how it runs - as is.
All the 'cheater' parts have been put back on the car to try to retain originality but a few more 'tweaks' are needed to make it run aggresively, for what it is (T-I).
For example, I can see making the timer portion of the software work both manually and automatically, as a benefit.
These had a delayed higher performance mode so the vehicle would pass a post race tech inspection - this could now be selectable.

Thanks

I was just commenting that the "to do" list looked VERY familiar..

Needs to include replacing rubber brake lines, Fuel lines, cleaning mouse nests from HVAC ducting, and shifter linkage replacement...

Then you have just another day at my house..






Ok.. So the LM is coded to automatically switch b/t calibrations/boost levels/spark curves somehow? Very interesting..

[zin]

I think everybody would be interested in learning about the various "superior reading of rules " that went into these cars to give them a leg up, at least as much as is known. I understand the A -arm geometry was changed as another example, but to what and why I don't know ...

I love this kind of history, it helps put you in the moment as it were.

Mike

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I was just commenting that the "to do" list looked VERY familiar.. Needs to include replacing rubber brake lines, Fuel lines, cleaning mouse nests from HVAC ducting, and shifter linkage replacement... Then you have just another day at my house..

Ok.. So the LM is coded to automatically switch b/t calibrations/boost levels/spark curves somehow? Very interesting..

You nailed that one !!
A lot will need to be replaced, over time.
The maiden voyage went great - the second drive came with the shift rods falling off.
Know anyone with rod hardware? I'd like to try original stuff before I switch it to heim, or even cable.
I do have a G body 525 cable set-up but I'm not comfortable doing that and it would be a last resort.

The LM and later competition SMEC were set up with a timer to run stock spark, fuel, and boost during a tech inspection lap.
After this, the timers would mature and switch to a more aggressive strategy to gain an advantage.. "Cheater code" that flew under the radar.

[vipernbox]

I like these shifter conversion parts the best.. You can source all this stuff yourself.. probably cheaper assuming your time has no value. I have installed one of these.. everything was there and it worked perfectly.

http://www.greatlakeshotrod.com/Grea..._For_Sale.html


But if you want to stay stock.. Good luck. I am sure someone has the parts.

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I think everybody would be interested in learning about the various "superior reading of rules " that went into these cars to give them a leg up, at least as much as is known. I understand the A -arm geometry was changed as another example, but to what and why I don't know ... I love this kind of history, it helps put you in the moment as it were.
Mike

I agree with you, completely.
The car rides like a brick with shocks and struts that appear as production parts.
It may ride smoother if I installed solid 1" bars, as a replacement.
After some of the body problems are fixed, the suspension will be looked at much closer to see what has been done and what is needed.

I do know that unique brake pads and shoes were made with higher semi-metallic material/content.
In higher modified classes mini 4-piston front calipers were made by JFZ and used in the stock location.
There were also several style struts with shrader valves for air ride height adjustment while others were equipped with 1.5"-1.75" hollow center shafts, with a bottom valve adjustment.

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I like these shifter conversion parts the best.. You can source all this stuff yourself.. probably cheaper assuming your time has no value. I have installed one of these.. everything was there and it worked perfectly. http://www.greatlakeshotrod.com/Grea..._For_Sale.html

But if you want to stay stock.. Good luck. I am sure someone has the parts.

Thanks !

[GLHS60]

Ken:
Speaking of external L body fuel pumps, do you know if the in tank hanger is the same with single and dual pump systems? Any info on the topic is appreciated.

Thanks
Randy

PS. I find all your posts are excellent and am subscribed to them all!!

Update:

The following problems have been corrected on the #54 Team Shelby car.
Burnt wiring
poor module connections
poor injector connections
stuck injectors
Logic module connectors pins
mouse nest and "snack wiring" near the bulk-head connector
broken head bolt
blown head gasket
seized #4 spark plug
seized external fuel pump
vacuum harness

Now that its up and running, the mouse nest has been removed from the exhaust system.

Next step (when time permits): Body repair

[5DIGITS]

Hope to see this thing at sdac

I'm trying to make that happen.. would be nice.

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This is not the brake system on the Team Shelby Charger.
These are from the heavier modified race vehicles from the 80's FWD Dodge racing era.
These will find a new home on the 85 SC project car along with R/T rear vented discs.

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Ken:
Speaking of external L body fuel pumps, do you know if the in tank hanger is the same with single and dual pump systems? Any info on the topic is appreciated.
Thanks
Randy

PS. I find all your posts are excellent and am subscribed to them all!!

I believe they are the same.
Back in 87' I removed the external pump from my 85' and installed the later internal pump, on the original hanger.
Thanks for the kind words.

[vipernbox]

I believe they are the same.
Back in 87' I removed the external pump from my 85' and installed the later internal pump, on the original hanger.
Thanks for the kind words.

Also as far as I know the hangers are the same. I have converted several of the dual pumps to singles and never had a problem

Those brakes are VERY cool.

[moparman76_69]

http://mwphoto-misc.smugmug.com/Cars...DURANCE-SERIES

Found these photos and there are a couple of Paul Rossi racing #54 at Mid Ohio in 86 and several of #53 and a few of #52 at both Nelson Ledges and Mid Ohio.

[Pat]

http://mwphoto-misc.smugmug.com/Cars...DURANCE-SERIES

Found these photos and there are a couple of Paul Rossi racing #54 at Mid Ohio in 86 and several of #53 and a few of #52 at both Nelson Ledges and Mid Ohio.

That is so cool...thanks for sharing.

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Found these photos and there are a couple of Paul Rossi racing #54 at Mid Ohio in 86 and several of #53 and a few of #52 at both Nelson Ledges and Mid Ohio.

Thanks for posting these - it is genuinely appreciated.
I did get it explained to me that the car was occasionally shared with Paul and the Rossi Racing team.

Again, thank you.

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Since SDAC-22 and prior to winter, the car received some additional adjustments and is now running great.
Additionally, the original modified/large slot rims have been cleaned up and now have a nice set of NOS 205/50R15 Gatorbacks installed.
The shift linkage is being up-fitted with heim-joints rather than a cable conversion, to retain as much originality as possible.
The rest will need to wait for mid-summer due to the 87 CSX restoration and the marketing intent 90 Shelby CSX 2.5L 16V projects.